What is the Correct Magnitude of P in a System of Forces?

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnitude of a force P in a system of forces, specifically analyzing the resultant moments about a point O. The problem involves concepts from statics and mechanics, including the application of trigonometric functions to resolve forces and moments.

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  • Participants explore the calculations for the resultant moment about point O, questioning the values used in the equations and the interpretation of angles and distances. There are discussions about the significance of certain terms and the correctness of the coordinates used in the calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for redrawing diagrams to clarify the problem. Some participants express uncertainty about specific values and their implications, while others challenge assumptions and seek clarification on the roles of various components in the equations.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the coordinates and distances involved in the problem setup. Participants are encouraged to reconsider their diagrams and the relationships between the forces, particularly in relation to the angles and the resultant moments being calculated.

  • #31
My Yes was premature, sorry. The answer to my ""Did you find the x-coordinate of the leftmost point of the "horizontal line where it join all the 15N and 10N" ? (It is not -4 )"" is not (-6, 0) but -6.

It is a coordinate. It is related to the x coordinates of the points where the 10 and 15 N forces act.

The position vector of this leftmost point is of course ##(-6, 6\sqrt 3)##. ##\ \ \ (-6,0)## would be on the x-axis to the left of O.

Can you now calculate the x-coordinate of the point where the leftmost 10 N force is acting ? (it is not 1, it is not -3 and the y-coordinate ##6\sqrt 3## you used is correct.)

And we still have to fix the y-coordinate of the point where the force P is acting. (it is not ##6\sqrt 3## ).

Almost there ..

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  • #32
BvU said:
My Yes was premature, sorry. The answer to my ""Did you find the x-coordinate of the leftmost point of the "horizontal line where it join all the 15N and 10N" ? (It is not -4 )"" is not (-6, 0) but -6.

It is a coordinate. It is related to the x coordinates of the points where the 10 and 15 N forces act.

The position vector of this leftmost point is of course ##(-6, 6\sqrt 3)##. ##\ \ \ (-6,0)## would be on the x-axis to the left of O.

Can you now calculate the x-coordinate of the point where the leftmost 10 N force is acting ? (it is not 1, it is not -3 and the y-coordinate ##6\sqrt 3## you used is correct.)

And we still have to fix the y-coordinate of the point where the force P is acting. (it is not ##6\sqrt 3## ).

Almost there ..

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How to calculate the leftmost x coodrinate for 10N? it's shown in the diagram is 3m , right??
 
  • #33
I really can't understand why you can't make this drawing in more than a week's time. I have no idea what diagram you are talking about. The picture in post #1 is so extremely bad, it deliberately does not show anything as you have been told several times now. You should not use it, except to pick up the given values.

With the diagram you should have made below, it should not be too difficult now, I sincerely hope...

Do yourself a favour, finish the picture and write in the given numbers.

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I, in turn, have deliberately :wink: misplaced P so that you at least have something left to do yourself to fix the (hopefully last) error in your calculation.

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