What is the derivative of (sinx+cosx)secx?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function (sinx + cosx)secx. Participants are exploring the differentiation of trigonometric functions and the simplification of the resulting expressions.

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the function and simplify the result but is uncertain if further simplification is possible. Other participants suggest rewriting the trigonometric functions in terms of sine and cosine to potentially achieve a simpler form. There are hints provided regarding the simplification of the expression (sinx + cosx)secx before differentiation.

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1. As the title states, I need to fine d/dx(sinx+cosx)secx.

2. I am given pretty much most of the derivatives and trig functions.

3. Here's my attempt to solve the question:
y=(sinx+cos)secx
y'=(sinx+cosx)(secxtanx)+(secx)(cosx-sinx)
=sinxsecxtanx+cosxsecxtanx+cosxsecx-sinxsecx
=secx(sinxtanx+cosxtanx+cosx-sinx)
and that's where I've gotten up to.


So now I'm curious if my last step is the final answer, or can I simplify it more. I know some can be switched around but I'm not sure if that would help make the answer. Please advice and thanks for the help in advance!
 
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Try turning the secants and tangents into sines and cosines before any re-arranging (after taking the derivative though) and see if you get something that you consider 'nicer'. I think most people would accept

y'=(sinx+cosx)(secxtanx)+(secx)(cosx-sinx)

As an answer, but obviously I don't know the criteria on which you're graded
 
That simplifies quite a bit.

Hint/sanity check: Simplify (sinx+cosx)secx, then differentiate.
 
Ok, after reading DH's reply, I tried the question again and here's what I did.
y=(sinx+cosx)1/cosx
y'=(sinx+cosx)(-1/sinx)+(1/cosx)(-sinx+cosx)
=cosx/-sinx + sinx/-sinx + cosx/cosx - sinx/cosx
=cosx/-sinx - sinx/cosx

does that seem simple enough for you guys? I wish I were given the answers to check with.
 
Try simplifying (sinx+cosx)secx again. Hint: What is cos(x)*sec(x)?
 
D H said:
Try simplifying (sinx+cosx)secx again. Hint: What is cos(x)*sec(x)?

Oh, I see where you're going...
(sinx)(secx)+1 <----since cosx*secx = cosx*1/cosx
(sinx)(1/cosx)+1
[[(cosx)(cosx)-(sinx)(-sinx)]/(cosx)^2]+1
[(cos2x+sin2x)/cos2x]+1
(1/cos2x)+1?
is the +1 supposed to stay?
 

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