∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx different answers depending on U-sub?

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In summary, the conversation discusses two different methods of expanding (sinx)^3 and (cosx)^3, which result in two slightly different final answers. However, it is noted that the two answers are equal except for a constant, leading to the question of whether or not they are truly equal.
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I expanded (sinx)^3 into ∫[(sinx)^2(sinx)(cosx)^3]dx then to ∫[(1-cosx^2)(sinx)(cosx)^3]dx

so then u = sinx

However the official solution for this problem expands (cosx)^3 to get ∫[(cosx)^2(cos)(sinx)^3]dx then to ∫[(1-sinx^2)(cosx)(sinx)^3]dx

so then u = cosx

So the final answer is almost the same for each method except for the fact that the first answer is in terms of sinx and the second final answer is in terms of cosx (and contains an extra negative sign due to derivative of cosx producing a negative).

So the question is, are these two answers equal even though they consist of completely different functions in the final answer?
 
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LearninDaMath said:

Homework Statement



I expanded (sinx)^3 into ∫[(sinx)^2(sinx)(cosx)^3]dx then to ∫[(1-cosx^2)(sinx)(cosx)^3]dx

so then u = sinx

However the official solution for this problem expands (cosx)^3 to get ∫[(cosx)^2(cos)(sinx)^3]dx then to ∫[(1-sinx^2)(cosx)(sinx)^3]dx

so then u = cosx

So the final answer is almost the same for each method except for the fact that the first answer is in terms of sinx and the second final answer is in terms of cosx (and contains an extra negative sign due to derivative of cosx producing a negative).

So the question is, are these two answers equal even though they consist of completely different functions in the final answer?
Subtract one answer from the other.

They only differ by a constant.
 
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Ah interesting, thanks.
 

1. What is U-substitution and how does it affect the integration of ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx?

U-substitution is a technique used in calculus to simplify complex integrals. It involves substituting a variable, usually denoted as "u", for a part of the integrand. In the case of ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx, using U-substitution can help simplify the integral and potentially lead to different answers depending on the choice of "u".

2. How do I choose the appropriate "u" for U-substitution in ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx?

The key to choosing the appropriate "u" for U-substitution is to look for a part of the integrand that can be easily differentiated. In the case of ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx, a good choice for "u" would be sinx or cosx, as their derivatives can be easily calculated. However, the choice of "u" can also depend on the specific problem and may require some trial and error.

3. Can U-substitution be used in all integrals involving trigonometric functions?

No, U-substitution is not always applicable to integrals involving trigonometric functions. It is most commonly used when the integrand contains a product of trigonometric functions, such as in the case of ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx. Additionally, U-substitution may not always lead to a simpler integral and may not be the most efficient method for integration in certain cases.

4. Will using different "u" values always result in different answers for ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx?

Yes, using different "u" values can lead to different answers for ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx. This is because the choice of "u" can affect the simplification of the integral and ultimately change the resulting answer. It is important to carefully consider the choice of "u" in order to arrive at the correct answer.

5. How do I know if I need to use U-substitution for ∫(sinx)^3(cosx)^3dx?

It is not always necessary to use U-substitution for integrals involving trigonometric functions. However, if the integrand contains a product of trigonometric functions and other integration techniques, such as integration by parts, do not seem applicable, then U-substitution may be a good option to try. It can also be helpful to look for patterns or familiar forms in the integrand that may indicate the use of U-substitution.

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