What is the derivative of y=1/xlnx?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y=1/xlnx. Participants are exploring the application of the quotient rule and addressing potential errors in their differentiation process.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the quotient rule but questions the correctness of their differentiation steps. Some participants clarify the derivative of the components involved, while others explore the implications of setting the derivative equal to zero.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing corrections and alternative approaches. There is a mix of attempts to clarify misunderstandings and explore further implications of the derivative.

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There is a discussion about the correctness of derivatives and the conditions under which the gradient equals zero, indicating a potential gap in understanding the relationship between logarithmic functions and their derivatives.

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Homework Statement


Find dy/dx of y=1/xlnx


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I thought that I'd have to use the quotient rule:
y'=vu'-uv'/v^2

However the differential of 1 is 0, so is this the right rule to use?

The Attempt at a Solution



u=1
u'=0

v=xlnx
v'=1/x

y'=vu'-uv'/v^2
y'=(xlnx*0)-(1*1/x)/(xlnx)^2
y'=-1/x(xlnx)^2
y'= -1/x^3lnx^2

But this doesn't seem right to me, I'm not sure. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Many Thanks.
 
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v=xlnx
v'=1/x

Really? I thought 1/x was the derivative of lnx, not xlnx.
 
Yes sorry just realized that..
I redid it and got dy/dx=1-lnx/(x^2lnx^2), which sounds a more accurate answer and think I have done it right this time.

Is is possible to just extend this question though:
If I was to find when the gradient equals 0, I've got 0=1-lnx so 1=lnx, but how would I solve this?

Thankyou
 
e to the what equals 1?
 
Does lne=1??
But I don't know how that solves this, does that mean x=e?
 
Yes, ln(e)=1.

I kindve messed up my hint there and ended up inadvertantly giving answer instead. (e^0 is 1, but that's not relevant here.)

Remember ln is just log base e, which 'undoes' powers, so you you're looking for the power of e that equals e in this case. (e^1=e^ln(x) => e^(lnx) is just x, =>e=x).
 

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