What is the difference between an 'increasing gradient' and a positive gradient?

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The discussion clarifies the distinction between a positive gradient and an increasing gradient in calculus. A positive gradient indicates that the slope of the function is above zero, while an increasing gradient refers to the slope of the first derivative being positive, indicating that the slope itself is rising. For the function f(x) = 3 + 6x - 2x³, the positive gradient occurs when f'(x) > 0, and the increasing gradient is determined by analyzing the second derivative, f''(x) > 0. This differentiation is crucial for understanding the behavior of functions in calculus.

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Homework Statement


f(x)= 3+6x-2x^3

(a) Determine the values of x for which the graph of f has positive gradient
(b) Find the values of x for which the graph of f has increasing gradient

Homework Equations


I had originally thought the two terms meant the same thing, but when I checked the answers at the back of the book, they gave two different answers.


The Attempt at a Solution


Isn't a positive gradient an increasing one?
 
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An increasing gradient means that the gradient itself is increasing.
 
So when a line is at more than 45 degrees, you mean?
 
Or do you mean increasing from one stage to the next?
 
If the gradient of the gradient is positive, then it is an increasing gradient.
Do you know how to check for that?
 
Dramacon said:

Homework Statement


f(x)= 3+6x-2x^3

(a) Determine the values of x for which the graph of f has positive gradient
(b) Find the values of x for which the graph of f has increasing gradient

Homework Equations


I had originally thought the two terms meant the same thing, but when I checked the answers at the back of the book, they gave two different answers.


The Attempt at a Solution


Isn't a positive gradient an increasing one?

suppose our function was g(x) = 2x + 3.

at any given point, the gradient (slope of the graph) is constant, it is 2.

note that g'(x) = 2 is positive, but it ISN'T increasing, it's flat.

to see whether or not the gradient is increasing/decreasing/neither, you need to find the gradient of the gradient.

in terms of derivatives, this means you need to look at the second derivative, to tell whether the first derivative is increasing, decreasing, or "flat". note that these are "local" properties, the answers you get depend on "which x" you look at.
 
Ah, I see! :) Thank you! This makes so much more sense now.
 

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