What is the ''difference quotient'' of d/dx[ln (x+3)] ?

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The discussion revolves around finding the difference quotient for the derivative of the function f(x) = ln(x + 3). Participants are exploring the definition and application of the difference quotient in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to express the derivative using the difference quotient formula, with some suggesting specific forms and manipulations of logarithmic expressions. Questions about the definition of the natural logarithm function are also raised.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and suggestions for rewriting expressions. There is a focus on clarifying definitions and exploring the steps involved in applying the difference quotient.

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There is mention of related threads, indicating that the original poster may have multiple inquiries about similar topics. Some participants express uncertainty about the clarity of the original question.

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Homework Statement


What is the step by step difference quotient instructions of d/dx [ln (x+3)]?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to solve but i got as far as (lim h--> 0 ..of.. 1/h * ln (x+h+3/x+3)[/B]
 
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How are you defining the natural log function?
 
vela said:
How are you defining the natural log function?
Define it with the difference quotient only

d/dx (f (x+h) - f (x))/h

d/dx[ln (x+3)] =

lim h --> 0 of (ln (x+h+3) - ln (x+3))/h

lim h --> 0 of( 1/h * ln ((x+h+3)/(x+3))

?
 
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Michael Santos said:

Homework Statement


What is the step by step difference quotient instructions of d/dx [ln (x+3)]?

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to solve but i got as far as (lim h--> 0 ..of.. 1/h * ln (x+h+3/x+3)[/B]

Michael Santos said:
Define it with the difference quotient only

d/dx (f (x+h) - f (x))/h

d/dx[ln (x+3)] =

lim h --> 0 of (ln (x+h+3) - ln (x+3))/h

lim h --> 0 of( 1/h * ln ((x+h+3)/(x+3))

?
This thread appears to be related to two other threads you started today.
with this being the main thread.
These should all appear in one single thread.

The question you are attempting to answer is not altogether clear. Please state it word for word as it was given to you.

It appears that you are working with the function ##\ f(x) = ln(x+3) \ ## and want to find the difference quotient, perhaps with the goal of using that to find the derivative of ##\ f(x) \ ##. But details are quite uncertain.
 
Michael Santos said:
Define it with the difference quotient only
I'm asking what your definition of the log function is.

Anyway, after you combine the two logarithms, try rewriting the inside as
$$\frac{x+3+h}{x+3} = 1+\frac{h}{x+3}.$$
 

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