What is the effect of ageing on the hardness of aluminium alloys?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of ageing on the hardness of aluminum alloys, specifically focusing on the processes of solution and precipitation heat treatment. Participants explore the changes in hardness associated with these treatments and the underlying mechanisms involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that after solution heat treatment, the hardness of aluminum alloys decreases, leading to a "soft and ductile" state, as stated in reference texts.
  • Others argue that the hardness should increase after precipitation heat treatment, suggesting it will be significantly higher than both the original alloy and the hardness measured after solution heat treatment.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the heat treatment process, questioning why the final state after secondary treatment would be stronger than the original alloy despite the presence of precipitates.
  • Another participant mentions that ageing causes crystals to grow within the aluminum, which reinforces and hardens the alloy's structure by interfering with atomic movement.
  • One participant shares links to articles that may provide additional background on heat treatable aluminum alloys and thermomechanical treatments.
  • A participant reports difficulties in achieving the correct hardness in a specific aluminum alloy (LM25 TE) and seeks advice on potential solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of solution and precipitation heat treatments on hardness, with no consensus reached on the specifics of the mechanisms involved or the optimal conditions for achieving desired hardness levels.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions include assumptions about the nature of precipitates and their role in dislocation movement, which may not be universally accepted. The effects of time on the ageing process and its relationship to hardness are also not fully resolved.

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During the heat treatment of Aluminum alloys, two processes: Solution and Precipitation heat treatment were used.

Should the hardness increase or decrease from the original alloy after solution heat treatment? My reference text says that the material should be "soft and ductile" after solution heat treatment, but I am not sure if this is accurate.

What should be the effect on the hardness after Precipitation heat treatment? I was under the impression that this final hardness should be significantly higher than the original alloy and higher than the hardness measured after solution heat treatment.

Thank you.
 
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the_dialogue said:
During the heat treatment of Aluminum alloys, two processes: Solution and Precipitation heat treatment were used.

Should the hardness increase or decrease from the original alloy after solution heat treatment? My reference text says that the material should be "soft and ductile" after solution heat treatment, but I am not sure if this is accurate.
It is accurate. Immediately after a solution heat treatment, you will have a soft alloy...for a few days at most. Remember, what you are doing is freezing a high temperature solution at a metastable low temperature state. It is the subsequent ageing that causes precipitation to occur, which increases the strength and hardness.

What should be the effect on the hardness after Precipitation heat treatment? I was under the impression that this final hardness should be significantly higher than the original alloy and higher than the hardness measured after solution heat treatment.
That sounds right.
 
Thank you for replying Gokul. If you don't mind, I would like to ask a few more questions.

I seem to be confused with the whole idea of heat treatment. We start off with an aluminum matrix with precipitates in it. We heat the alloy and cool it, so that the precipitates (which blend with the aluminum to form one phase at a high temperature) "freeze" into the aluminum base. Therefore, i suppose I understand why the hardness is lower -- because the precipitates are what hinders dislocation movement in the first place, hence making the material harder. Upon the secondary treatment, which heats it to a lower temperature (150C), some of the precipitates are allowed to diffuse into the aluminum base, and once again the material is quenched. Now at this state, I would guess that there are a few more "frozen" percipitates? But why would this state be significantly stronger than the original alloy?

Why don't we simply leave an aluminum alloy lying around for years, until a lot of the precipitates have diffused and there is max. hindering of dislocation movement?

Thank you! I have absolutely no one to ask this question but you.
 
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Having problems acheiving the correct hardness on LM25 TE, tried casting with the mag at the higher end, but made no diffrence. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
Ageing aluminium causes crystals to grow inside the aluminium crystals which interfere with the lattice and actually reinforce and harden the crystal structure of the alloy. In this new structure the aluminium alloys ability to shuffle its atoms and change shape is prevented making it harder and stronger.

Here is a link to a you tube clip which may be useful to you:
 
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