What Is the Electric Field at the Surface of a Nucleus with 89 Protons?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at the surface of a nucleus containing 89 protons, modeled as a uniformly charged sphere with a specified radius. Participants are exploring the application of relevant physics concepts to determine the electric field strength.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric field using a formula involving the force and charge, but questions arise regarding the correctness of their approach. Some participants suggest using Gauss's law as an alternative method, while others express uncertainty about the introduction of this law in their coursework.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their methods. There is a recognition that both the original poster and another participant arrived at the same numerical result using different approaches, leading to further inquiry about the potential errors in their calculations or assumptions.

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Participants note that there may be constraints related to the introduction of certain laws, such as Gauss's law, in their curriculum, which could affect their problem-solving strategies.

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Homework Statement


A certain atom of has 89 protons. Assume that the nucleus is a sphere with radius 7.11e-15 m and with the charge of the protons uniformly spread through the sphere. At the nucleus surface what is the magnitude of the electric field produced by the protons?

Homework Equations


E=F/q

F=(q1q2 * 8.99e9)/ d2

a single proton has a charge of 1.6e-19 C

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b]
So my understanding of the problem is they want me to calculate the electric field at the edge of the nucleus.
so I started my assuming the electric field being at the center of the nucleus with my test charge at the edge of the nucleus. So I did 89 times the charge of a single proton times the constant all divided by the radius squared and I get a number of
2.53e21 N/C

which I am told is wrong, what did I do wrong?
 
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I believe that's the hard way to do that. You don't really know the force of all the protons. An easier way to do the problem would be to use Gauss's law.
 
Ithryndil said:
I believe that's the hard way to do that. You don't really know the force of all the protons. An easier way to do the problem would be to use Gauss's law.

I don't think he introduced us that law yet, am i doing it right in the hard way method?
 
kyin01 said:
I don't think he introduced us that law yet, am i doing it right in the hard way method?

Interesting. When I did it with Gauss's law the answer I got is the same as the answer you got...so why it says it's wrong is beyond me. Perhaps we are both missing something.
 

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