What Is the Electric Field of a Coaxial Cable?

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field of a coaxial cable consisting of a cylindrical metal sheath and a conducting wire, both carrying the same charge per length. Participants are tasked with determining the electric field in three distinct regions based on the distance from the central axis of the wire.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the charge distribution on the electric field, questioning whether the charges cancel out in certain regions. There is discussion about the appropriate Gaussian surface to use for different regions and how to express distances between the inner and outer conductors.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on setting up Gaussian surfaces and applying Gauss's Law. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of charge distribution and the location of charges within the conductors.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of applying Gauss's Law to a coaxial cable setup, with some uncertainty about the contributions of charge per length and the geometry of the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the electric field behavior in different regions of the coaxial cable.

  • #31
Kot said:
Well since all the charges reside on the outer surface r=a, and the chosen Guassian surface has r<a. The Guassian surface does not hold any charge.

Bingo again! So what by your formula for E does that make the E field at r < a?
 
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  • #33
rude man said:
Bingo again! So what by your formula for E does that make the E field at r < a?

At r < a, E = 0.
 
  • #34
Kot said:
At r < a, E = 0.

Right. And that squares with what you said before about the E field inside a conductor being zero, doesn't it.

Now, put your gaussian surface in the region a < r < b. What is E now?
 
  • #35
rude man said:
Right. And that squares with what you said before about the E field inside a conductor being zero, doesn't it.

Now, put your gaussian surface in the region a < r < b. What is E now?

Now choosing the Guassian surface to be in a < r < b, the total amount of Qenclosed is equal to the charges that were described earlier (on the surface of the wire). So EA = Qenclosed / εo. A is the surface area of the Guassian cylinder 2∏*r*L and Qenclosed = λL. Using these values in Gauss's Law gives E = λ / (2∏rεo).
 
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  • #36
Kot said:
Now choosing the Guassian surface to be in a < r < b, the total amount of Qenclosed is equal to the charges that were described earlier (on the surface of the wire). So EA = Qenclosed / εo. A is the surface area of the Guassian cylinder 2∏*r*L and Qenclosed = λL. Using these values in Gauss's Law gives E = λ / (2∏rεo).

Yes!

OK, next step: put the Gaussian surface inside the outer conductor, at r = b. What is E there?

EDIT: Never mind, I see you don't need to do this,though it would be educational for you if you did.

So OK, last step is to put your surface at r > b. What is E there?
 
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  • #37
rude man said:
Yes!

OK, next step: put the Gaussian surface inside the outer conductor, at r = b. What is E there?

EDIT: Never mind, I see you don't need to do this,though it would be educational for you if you did.

So OK, last step is to put your surface at r > b. What is E there?

I think it should be the same E as a < r < b, but in this case the r has to be greater than b. If that isn't correct then the charge enclosed would be the total of the wire and the sheath.
 
  • #38
Kot said:
I think it should be the same E as a < r < b, but in this case the r has to be greater than b. If that isn't correct then the charge enclosed would be the total of the wire and the sheath.

It won't be the same as at a < r < b. Use your formula again for E.

Yes, the toal enclosed charge is now the sum of charges on the inside and outside conductors, i.e. 2λL.

For 'extra credit' you should assume a finite thickness for the sheath, put your surface there and again solve for E. You again know the E field is zero since the surface is inside the conductor, and if you use your formula to solve for Q with E=0 you can deduce what the charges on the inner and outer surfaces of the sheath must be.
 

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