What is the Force on a Current Loop in a Magnetic Field?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force on a current loop in a magnetic field, specifically focusing on the interaction between parallel wires carrying currents. The original poster expresses confusion due to a lack of prior explanation from their teacher.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the force between parallel wires and reference Ampère's force law. There are attempts to derive the force per unit length between two infinite wires, with questions about the magnetic field produced by one wire affecting the other.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using specific equations to find the force per unit length between the wires. There is acknowledgment of the calculations being correct, but the discussion remains open with further clarifications being requested.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance provided. The original poster's uncertainty about the problem setup is evident, as they seek more detailed explanations.

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Here is the problem and the picture that goes along with it. I am really stuck because our teacher never explained a problem like this to us before. Any help is appreciated! THank you so much

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Here are the equations that I was given

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Ok, in your formulas, use

[tex] F = BI l \sin\theta [/tex]

[tex] B_{wire}=\frac{\mu_0I}{2\pi r}[/tex]
to find out the force per unit length b/w two infinite parallel wires carrying currents [tex]I_1, I_2[/tex]. Can you do that?
 
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THank you so much!
 
Sorry I just realized... irdg what you meant
@praharmitra...

sorry can you explain a little bit more
 
Ok, what I want you to do is find the force per unit length b/w a pair of infinite wires separated at a distance r. Here's what you do.

You have one wire carrying current [itex]I_1[/itex]. What magnetic field does it produce at a distance r from itself?

Now the second wire carrying current [itex]I_2[/itex], is in the presence of the magnetic field you calculated above. Therefore, what is the force per unit length on this wire?

That is your answer for the force b/w two wires.
 
Would you do it like this:??

Fnet = Fnear - Ffar = (µoI1I2)(ℓnear)/(2πdnear) - (µoI1I2)(ℓfar)/(2πdfar) = (µoI1I2ℓ)/(2π) * (1/dnear - 1/dfar) = [(4π x 10-7T·m/A) (2A)(3A)(6m)]/(2π) * [1/1 - 1/3] = 4.74 x 10-5N away from the wire


doest that make sense? llol

Thank you so much for all the help guys!
 
yes, that is correct yes.
 

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