What is the formula for finding the area of a parallelogram using vectors?

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a parallelogram using vectors, specifically through the application of the cross product. The original poster presents a problem involving the vertices of a parallelogram and expresses uncertainty about how to define vectors from these points for the purpose of calculating area.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the cross product to find the area, with some suggesting drawing the points to visualize the vectors. The original poster questions how to determine which points form the vectors needed for the cross product. There is also a discussion about the relationship between the lengths of opposite sides of the parallelogram.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on visualizing the problem and clarifying the use of the cross product. There is acknowledgment of the need to consider vector magnitudes, and some participants are exploring the implications of side lengths in the context of the parallelogram.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses confusion about the definitions and relationships of the vectors derived from the given points, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts. There is also a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the lengths of the sides of the parallelogram.

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Homework Statement



Find the area of the parallelogram with the vectices :

A(-2,1)
B(0,4)
C(4,2)
D(-2,1)

Homework Equations



This sections is about vectors, specifically crossproducts.

A = |a|(|b|sin(/theta) = |a x b|

- The length of the cross product a x b is equal to the area of the parallelogram determined
by a and b



The Attempt at a Solution



Instead of using the equation i found the length of each line :

A to B = sqrt(13)
B to C = sqrt(20)
D to C = sqrt(14)
A to D = sqrt(20)

What I did was divide it into 2 triangles find each hypotenuse and multiply it by each other
then divide it by 2. I don't know if there is a formula similar to this but the answer I got
was 16.748.

The problem I am having is to use the definition in the Relevant equation sections above.
How do I know which points would be a vector. If I know that then I can
probably figure about there Cross product and find its magnitude which is the parallelogram area.
 
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Oh I see, All I need is x and y : x*y = Area, where x & y are vectors.

But will it always be the case that the length of the A to D will be equal to the length B to C?
 


Remember to take the magnitude of the cross product (i.e |x*y| )

No.
 


How do I counteract that if it does not have the same length on the opposite side.

Do I have to do 2 cross product?
 


Opposite sides in a parallelogram are always of equal length.
 

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