What is the Geometric Interpretation of Dot and Cross Products?

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The discussion revolves around the geometric interpretation of the dot and cross products in vector calculus, specifically focusing on the equations involving the vector \(\vec{r}\) and the unit vector \(\hat{x}\). Participants are exploring the surfaces defined by these equations in three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the graphical implications of the equation \(\vec{r} \cdot \hat{x} = 2\) and what surface it represents. There is also discussion on the interpretation of the cross product and its resulting equation, with some questioning how to visualize these concepts in three-dimensional space.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the surfaces defined by the equations, suggesting that the equation \(\vec{r} \cdot \hat{x} = 2\) corresponds to a plane where \(x = 2\). Others are exploring the implications of the cross product and its resulting equation, with attempts to simplify and understand its geometric representation.

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There is a focus on understanding the geometric interpretations without relying on specific visualizations or prior knowledge of the shapes involved. Participants are encouraged to think conceptually about the equations rather than through the lens of vector components alone.

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Describe the surface defined by the equation: (a) [tex]\vec{r}\cdot \hat{x}= 2,[/tex] where [tex]\vec{r}=x\hat{x}+y\hat{y}+z\hat{z}[/tex]; (b) [tex]\left \| \vec{r} \times \hat{x}\right \|=2[/tex]

For the first one, I know that is interpreted as the projection of the r vector onto the x-axis is equal to two. However, I am not sure what this means graphically. I have no ideal what the cross product looks like. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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For (a), write out what [itex]\vec{r}\cdot \hat{x}[/itex] reduces to:

[tex]\vec{r}\cdot \hat{x} = (x\hat{x}+y\hat{y}+z\hat{z}) \cdot \hat{x} = ?[/tex]

Proceed similarly with (b). You don't need to know what the cross product "looks like". You just need to keep in mind these facts:

(1) the cross product obeys the distributive law
(2) [tex]\hat{x} \times \hat{y} = \hat{z}, \quad \hat{y} \times \hat{x} = -\hat{z}[/tex]
(3) [tex]\hat{y} \times \hat{z} = \hat{x}, \quad \hat{z} \times \hat{y} = -\hat{x}[/tex]
(4) [tex]\hat{z} \times \hat{x} = \hat{y}, \quad \hat{x} \times \hat{z} = -\hat{y}[/tex]
(3) [tex]\hat{x} \times \hat{x} = \hat{y} \times \hat{y} = \hat{z} \times \hat{z} = 0[/tex]
 
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Yeah, so basically any any vector with an x component of "2" satisfies part (a). However, even knowing that, I still cannot wrap my head around the surface created by such an equation.
 
Xkaliber said:
Yeah, so basically any any vector with an x component of "2" satisfies part (a). However, even knowing that, I still cannot wrap my head around the surface created by such an equation.

Try not to think about vectors. The equation is simply

[tex]x = 2[/tex]

What sort of surface in (x,y,z) space satisfies this equation?

Hint: In 2 dimensions, [itex]x = 2[/itex] is a line. In 3 dimensions, [itex]x = 2[/itex] is a ...?
 
So actually doing the cross product gives the equation: [tex]\left \| -z\hat{y} - y\hat{z}\right \|=2[/tex] So this is the equation is for a circle in in the y-z plane. Did I do that right?
 
Xkaliber said:
So actually doing the cross product gives the equation: [tex]\left \| -z\hat{y} - y\hat{z}\right \|=2[/tex] So this is the equation is for a circle in in the y-z plane. Did I do that right?

I get

[tex]\vec{r} \times \hat{x} = y (\hat{y} \times \hat{x}) + z(\hat{z} \times \hat{x}) = -y \hat{z} + z \hat{y}[/tex]

so the equation would be

[tex]||-y \hat{z} + z \hat{y}|| = 2[/tex]

You can evaluate the left-hand side to make it look more like the equation for a circle. What does

[tex]||-y \hat{z} + z \hat{y}||[/tex]

simplify to?
 

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