What is the ground state energy of an electron? I thought i did this right

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The discussion revolves around calculating the ground state energy of an electron using a specific formula related to quantum mechanics. The original poster attempts to apply the formula E_n = (h^2/(8*m*L^2))*n^2, where they substitute values for the mass of the electron, Planck's constant, and a length scale representative of atomic dimensions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of unit consistency in calculations, particularly the mixing of energy units and mass units. Some suggest converting all quantities to SI units before converting to eV at the end. The original poster questions the choice of the length scale L and its impact on the result.

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Participants are actively exploring the issue of unit consistency and its effect on the calculation of ground state energy. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to ensure all units are compatible, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or values to use.

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The original poster notes a lack of clarity in the textbook regarding the appropriate value for L, which may be contributing to their confusion. There is also mention of the electron being in an infinite potential well, which is a key assumption in the problem setup.

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What is the ground state energy of the following.
(a) an electron

Well the formula is:
E_n = (h^2/(8*m*L^2))*n^2;
The ground state means, n = 1, its the lowest enegery level possible.
So i plugged in n = 1,
mass of e = 9.11E-31;
h = 4.136E-15 eVs;
L = 100 pm, because the book says that's tabout the size of a typical atom.
I ended up getting:
E_1 = 2.347E20 eV which was wrong, any ideas why? They really don't tell me what value i should give L, so I'm guessing that's where i screwed up maybe? In the book it says the electron is in an infintie well. thanks!
 
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You can't use the eV*s version of Planck's constant if you are using the mass in kg. You must use h=6.6261*10^-34 J*s or switch the mass to the MeV/c^2 unit and use hc = 1239.8ev*nm
 
mr_coffee said:
What is the ground state energy of the following.
(a) an electron

Well the formula is:
E_n = (h^2/(8*m*L^2))*n^2;
The ground state means, n = 1, its the lowest enegery level possible.
So i plugged in n = 1,
mass of e = 9.11E-31;
h = 4.136E-15 eVs;
L = 100 pm, because the book says that's tabout the size of a typical atom.
I ended up getting:
E_1 = 2.347E20 eV which was wrong, any ideas why? They really don't tell me what value i should give L, so I'm guessing that's where i screwed up maybe? thanks!
because you are mixing units... If you use eV for energy and kg for mass, you are in trouble. If you write the unit sout, you will see that tey don't simplify. My suggestion is, when you are not sure, to put everything in SI units and convert back to eV at the very end
 
Thanks for the responce guys, when i just use the units to see what i end up with, I'm getting (J*s)^2/(kg*m^2), now if i want this in eV, 1 eV = 1.602E-19J;
but it still doesn't work out to the right units... anyone see what I'm not getting?
 

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