What is the ideal generated by a and b.

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the ideal generated by elements a and b in a ring R. The original poster seeks clarification on the notation and definition of this ideal.

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  • The original poster questions whether the ideal generated by a and b can be represented as the union of aR and bR, or if it involves ordered pairs. Participants clarify that it is not a union but rather the set of all sums of the form aR + bR.

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There is an underlying assumption regarding the notation used for the ideal generated by a and b, which some participants suggest may differ from standard interpretations.

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what is "the ideal generated by a and b."

I'm doing a problem and I'm a little confused on the notation.

Let R be a ring and [tex]a,b \in R[/tex]. Prove that [tex](a, b)[/tex], the ideal generated by a and b is the...

I want to do this on my own so I left out the rest of the problem. I just need to know if [tex](a, b) = aR \cup bR[/tex]. Or is it some kind of set of ordered pairs?
 
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It's not the union aR and bR. It's the set of all sums of the form aR+bR. They aren't the same. And unless (a,b) is some funny notation different from {a,b} then it has nothing to do with ordered pairs.
 


Okay that makes sense. The way I described it it wouldn't even be closed under addition.
 


General remark: Usually the phrase "object of type T generated by a set X" means "smallest object of type T containing the set X." And usually this is the 'intersection' (or appropriate analogue) of all objects of type T containing the set X.
 

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