What is the Initial Charging Current and Charge Stored on a Capacitor?

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The discussion revolves around a capacitor charging scenario involving a 50 µF capacitor connected to a 6V battery through a 100 kΩ resistor. Participants are exploring the initial charging current, the potential differences across the resistor and capacitor at a later time, and the charge stored on the capacitor.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the initial charging current using Ohm's law and question the accuracy of their results. There is confusion regarding terms like "pd's" and "half time," with some seeking clarification on their meanings. The relationship between current, potential difference, and charge is examined, with attempts to apply relevant equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations and clarified terminology. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between current, voltage, and charge, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct values or methods to arrive at the expected answers.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies between their calculations and the answers provided in the textbook, leading to discussions about potential misunderstandings in the problem setup or calculations. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in the resistor value, which may affect the analysis.

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Homework Statement



A 50 \muF capacitor is being charged from a 6V battery via a 100k\Omega resistor . what is the initial charging current? after a period of time, the charging current is 30\muA. what are the pd's across the resistor and the capacitor at that moment? how much charge has been stored on the capacitor up to that time?

Homework Equations



Q = CV

Initial Charging Current = emf/resistance

Q = EC (1 - e-t/RC)

The Attempt at a Solution



the initial charging current wasnt a problem, using V=IR.
I0 = 60\muA

from there on, i struggled to get the pd's but i realized that one half time had gone seeing as the current had halved so the pd must be 3V on each.

i tried using Q = CV to find the charge on the capacitor at that point, but it gave me 1.5 x 10-4C which is not the answer given. i also used the third equation given to get the charge, given the time- but the e term was negative, giving a negative amount of charge. the answer given in the book is 6\muC, but i can't see how to get this.
 
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alexburns1991 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



the initial charging current wasnt a problem, using V=IR.
I0 = 60\muA

Double-check your math. 6V, 50kΩ, ___μA?
 
sorry i copied the question wrong, it was meant to be 100kilo ohms.
i still don't see how you can get the answer given though.
 
What are "pd's"?

What is a "half time"? Is this a "half-life"? If you meant "time constant" (i.e. RC), then that would be incorrect. The quantity (say current) reduces to one-half in a bit less than one time constant of decay. (Remember, the current is the time derivative of the charge, which is an exponential function of time.) Hmm... I guess your result for 3V on the cap and res should be correct anyway.
 
alexburns1991 said:
from there on, i struggled to get the pd's but i realized that one half time had gone seeing as the current had halved so the pd must be 3V on each.

because the current has halved, the potential difference across the resistor must also have
halved because of ohms low. So it is indeed 3V. The rest of the 6V must be across the capacitor.
i tried using Q = CV to find the charge on the capacitor at that point, but it gave me 1.5 x 10-4C which is not the answer given. i also used the third equation given to get the charge, given the time- but the e term was negative, giving a negative amount of charge. the answer given in the book is 6\muC, but i can't see how to get this.

if your statement of the problem is correct, 1.5*10^-4 C is the right answer.

the e term can't go negative BTW. if t>0 and R>0 and C>0 then -t/RC < 0 so e^{-t/RC} &lt; 1 and 1- e^{-t/RC} &gt; 0
 

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