What is the kinetic energy when an object reaches escape velocity?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of kinetic energy at escape velocity, exploring the relationship between kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy, as well as the implications of escape velocity in the context of gravity. Participants examine theoretical aspects and mathematical formulations related to escape velocity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that escape velocity is the speed required for an object to overcome gravitational pull, emphasizing that it is not an event but a threshold speed.
  • Others argue that escape velocity decreases with altitude, noting that an object at escape velocity will have a different speed at higher altitudes while still being classified as at escape velocity.
  • One participant presents a mathematical relationship indicating that the kinetic energy at escape velocity is equal to the gravitational potential energy, leading to the equation: $$ \frac{mv^2}{2} = \frac{GMm}{r} $$.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of the definition of potential energy, noting that it is commonly defined as zero at infinity, which may not be universally accepted.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of escape velocity and its implications, particularly regarding the relationship between kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy. There is no consensus on the definitions and implications discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations related to the definitions of potential energy and the assumptions made about gravitational influences, which may affect the interpretations of escape velocity and its associated energies.

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What is the kinetic energy equal to during the escape velocity? Henceforth, what is exactly happening at the escape velocity in terms of gravity?
 
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Josielle Abdilla said:
What is the kinetic energy equal to during the escape velocity? Henceforth, what is exactly happening at the escape velocity in terms of gravity?

Escape velocity is simply the velocity required for an object to escape the gravitational pull of a body, ignoring complications like air resistance and other gravitational-influencing bodies (Sun, Moon, other planets, etc). There is no 'during'. Escape velocity is not an event.

Nothing is happening to gravity in the context of escape velocity. The object is simply traveling so fast that the gravitational acceleration of the larger body cannot decelerate the object at a fast enough rate to ever pull the object back to the surface.
 
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Drakkith said:
Escape velocity is simply the velocity required for an object to escape the gravitational pull of a body, ignoring complications like air resistance and other gravitational-influencing bodies (Sun, Moon, other planets, etc). There is no 'during'. Escape velocity is not an event.

Nothing is happening to gravity in the context of escape velocity. The object is simply traveling so fast that the gravitational acceleration of the larger body cannot decelerate the object at a fast enough rate to ever pull the object back to the surface.
I would add that escape velocity decreases as altitude increases.

If you have an object exactly at escape velocity at the Earth's surface, it will still be exactly at "escape velocity" when it it 100 miles up. It will be going slower. Escape velocity 100 miles up is a bit slower than at the Earth's surface

If a quick calculation serves, escape velocity is cut approximately in half once an object is at 12,000 miles altitude (16,000 miles from the center of the Earth). Escape energy, aka potential energy deficit, scales inversely with distance from the center of the gravitating body. Quadruple the distance and you've cut energy by 1/4. So you've cut escape velocity by 1/2. The object will be moving half as fast as it was at the surface. And it will still be at escape velocity.

If it were to reach infinity without interference, an object that started at escape velocity at the Earth's surface would be at a dead stop. [Which is still equal to escape velocity because it would have already escaped]
 
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The KE of an mass at escape velocity is such that when its added to the gravitational potential energy of the mass, the result is zero.
In other words:
$$ \frac{mv^2}{2} - \frac{GMm}{r} = 0 $$

Thus:
$$ \frac{mv^2}{2} = \frac{GMm}{r} $$
$$ v^2 = \frac{2GM}{r} $$
 
Janus said:
The KE of an mass at escape velocity is such that when its added to the gravitational potential energy of the mass, the result is zero.
In other words:
$$ \frac{mv^2}{2} - \frac{GMm}{r} = 0 $$

Thus:
$$ \frac{mv^2}{2} = \frac{GMm}{r} $$
$$ v^2 = \frac{2GM}{r} $$
Note that this is using the definition of potential energy such that an object has zero potential at infinity, and increasingly negative potential as it approaches a massive object. This is a common definition, but certainly not the only definition, so you need to be a bit careful there.
 

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