What is the limit of x^n/n as n approaches infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the expression $\frac{x^n}{n!}$ as $n$ approaches infinity. Participants explore various methods and proofs related to this limit, including the application of the Stolz–Cesàro theorem and alternative approaches to demonstrate the behavior of the sequence.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose proving that $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\frac{x^n}{n!}=0$ through various methods, including direct manipulation of the expression.
  • One participant suggests a humorous approach to the problem, indicating that there are multiple ways to tackle it.
  • Another participant challenges the validity of a proof by stating that it assumes the limit exists without justification.
  • Several participants reference the Stolz–Cesàro theorem, discussing its implications and how it relates to the proof of the limit in question.
  • There is a back-and-forth regarding the use of the Stolz–Cesàro theorem, with participants clarifying their positions on whether it is being used correctly in the context of the proof.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the diverse methods presented, indicating a shared learning experience among contributors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of certain proofs, particularly regarding the assumptions made about the existence of limits. Multiple competing views on the application of the Stolz–Cesàro theorem are evident, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments depend on the assumptions about the existence of limits, and there are unresolved mathematical steps regarding the application of the Stolz–Cesàro theorem.

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Prove that $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\frac{x^n}{n!}=0$.
 
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There are so many ways to approach this but here's a funny way.

Since the series $\sum_{n = 0}^\infty x^n/n!$ converges to $e^x$ for all $x$, by the $n$th term test, $\lim_{n\to \infty} x^n/n! = 0$ for all $x$.
 
Assume that $x>0$
$$\frac{x^n}{n!} \leq \frac{k^n}{n!} \leq \frac{k^k}{k!}\times \frac{k}{n}\, \to 0 $$[/sp]
 
My solution:

By the Stolz–Cesàro theorem, we may state:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^{n+1}-x^n}{(n+1)!-n!}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(\frac{x^n}{n!}\cdot\frac{x-1}{n}\right)=\left(\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}\right)\cdot0=0$$
 
Rido12 said:
Prove that $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\frac{x^n}{n!}=0$.

[sp]The safest way, in the sense that You avoid possible logical vicious circles, consists of 'merely attacking' ...

$\displaystyle \frac{x^{n}}{n!} = \frac{x}{n}\ \frac{x}{n-1} ... \frac{x}{2}\ x\ (1)$

... and the limit of (1) if n tends to infinity is quite obvious...[/sp]

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Using Stirling's approximation,

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}$$

$$=\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{\sqrt{2\pi n}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n}$$

$$=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left[\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi n}}\cdot\left(\frac{ex}{n}\right)^n \right]=0$$
 
MarkFL said:
My solution:

By the Stolz–Cesàro theorem, we may state:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^{n+1}-x^n}{(n+1)!-n!}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(\frac{x^n}{n!}\cdot\frac{x-1}{n}\right)=\left(\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}\right)\cdot0=0$$

I don't think this is a valid proof since you are assuming that the limit exists.
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
I don't think this is a valid proof since you are assuming that the limit exists.

The Stolz–Cesàro theorem asserts that if the limit:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}-a_{n}}{b_{n+1}-b_{n}}=L$$

exists, then the limit:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n}}{b_{n}}=L$$

also exists and is equal to $L$.
 
MarkFL said:
The Stolz–Cesàro theorem asserts that if the limit:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}-a_{n}}{b_{n+1}-b_{n}}=L$$

exists, then the limit:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n}}{b_{n}}=L$$

also exists and is equal to $L$.

For the proof of the first statement you are using the second statement which is what we want to prove.
 
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ZaidAlyafey said:
For the proof of the first statement you are using the second statement which is what we want to prove.

No, I am using the first statement to prove the second. I am using the fact that:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}-a_{n}}{b_{n+1}-b_{n}}=L$$

exists and is equal to $L$ to assert that:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n}}{b_{n}}=L$$
 
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ZaidAlyafey said:
For the proof of the first statement you are using the second statement which is what we want to prove.

Ahhh...my apologies for being so thick this morning...

I now (finally) see what you are saying...in my statement:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^{n+1}-x^n}{(n+1)!-n!}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(\frac{x^n}{n!}\cdot\frac{x-1}{n}\right)={\color{red}\left(\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}\right)}\cdot0=0$$

I am in fact assuming the part in red exists.
 
  • #12
Another attempt:

This is in fact very similar to Euge's method...

Let:

$$S=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\left(a_k\right)=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\left(\frac{x^k}{k!}\right)$$

To determine if $S$ converges, and thus if the terms tend to zero, we may use the ratio test:

$$L=\lim_{k\to\infty}\left|\frac{a_{k+1}}{a_{k}}\right|=\lim_{k\to\infty}\left|\frac{x^{k+1}}{(k+1)!}\cdot\frac{k!}{x^k}\right|=\lim_{k\to\infty}\left|\frac{x}{k+1}\right|=0$$

Since $L=0$, the series converges, and this implies:

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}=0$$
 
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Thanks to everyone that participated! I never knew there would be so many methods to solve this problem. :D My solution is in fact the same as Euge and Mark's, as it arose during my series and sequence homework.
 

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