What Is the Linear Acceleration of the Center of Mass of Link OA?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the linear acceleration of the center of mass of a link OA, given certain variables and conditions, including a fixed angular velocity and the presence of forces at specific points. The problem is situated within the context of dynamics and rotational motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of fixed points and angular velocities on the motion of link OA. Questions arise regarding the necessity of considering forces at points A and O, and whether the original poster's understanding of the problem setup is accurate. There is also discussion about the nature of linear acceleration in relation to tangential and radial components.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between angular motion and linear acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the forces acting on the system, particularly at points A and O, and how these relate to the overall motion of the link. The original poster has acknowledged previous attempts to clarify the problem but has raised concerns about the adequacy of their initial question.

Ian Blankenship
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Homework Statement


"Represent (linear) acceleration of center of mass of link OA in terms of variables shown." OmegaOA is given to be some constant value, I have assigned it 'omegaOA'.
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Homework Equations


Already derived equations to previous parts of the problem, fairly certain these are correct. Relative variables are neglected, since this is a single body problem. 'a' is linear acceleration, alpha is angular acceleration.
omegaAB = (omegaOA*b*cos(theta))/sqrt(d^2 - (b*sin(theta) + h)^2)
alphaOA = 0
alphaAB = [-(omegaOA^2)*b*sin(theta) - (omegaAB^2)*(b*sin(theta)+h)]/sqrt(d^2 + (b*sin(theta) + h)^2)
alphaOA = (a/r)

The Attempt at a Solution


If the weight (mg) of the rod was the only force acting on the rod, the problem is very simple.

I*alpha = torque where I = (1/12)*m*length^2
Mass cancels and the problem is easy to solve. However, I am guessing there are force vectors at A that need to be taken into account. Any help would be appreciated.
 

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haruspex said:
If the angular velocity of OA is fixed, and point O is fixed, how does anything to the right of A affect the movement of OA? Are you sure you have stated the question correctly?
And why did you mark the previous thread https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/acceleration-of-center-of-mass.912120/ as solved, then open a new one for the same question?
Sorry about the repost, I had stated the problem poorly the first time, so I figured it would save the time of those replying to make a more precise and accurate post of the question.
And the 'relevant equations' that I have listed are just there because I'm trying to give as much info as possible. And if the reaction forces at A are worked around, there are still support forces at O (according to my analysis, could be wrong). I.e. a simple moment analysis appears to lead to a confusing situation, with either forces at A or O coming up
 
Ian Blankenship said:
if the reaction forces at A are worked around,
Why do you care about forces at all? Point O is fixed, the rotation rate of OA is fixed. That tells you everything about the motion of all points on OA.
 
That makes sense..so the linear acceleration of the center of mass would be zero? I would assume that all points along the link OA would have an acceleration of zero.
 
Ian Blankenship said:
so the linear acceleration of the center of mass would be zero?
No. It has a tangential acceleration of zero.
Linear acceleration of a point is its total acceleration, tangential plus radial (vectorially). Linear acceleration of a rigid body is the linear acceleration of its mass centre.
 

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