What is the Maximum Electric Field of a Ring?

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The discussion revolves around determining the location and maximum magnitude of the electric field along the axis of a uniformly charged ring. The problem involves using specific constants and variables such as epsilon_0, Q, and a.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find the maximum electric field by taking the derivative of an equation and setting it to zero. They express confusion about obtaining the correct maximum value after substituting back into the original equation. Other participants question the clarity of the original poster's work and suggest that reviewing the simplification process may reveal mistakes.

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Participants note the absence of a figure that may aid in understanding the problem setup. There is also an emphasis on the importance of showing work to identify mistakes.

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Homework Statement



Determine both the location and the maximum magnitude Emax of the electric field along the axis of a uniformly charged ring. (Use epsilon_0 for ε0, Q, and a as necessary.)

Homework Equations


1) dE= (ke)dq/r^2cos(theta)
cos(theta)= x/r

2) Ex=Q*((ke*(x))/(a^2 + x^2)^3/2)
(a is the radius of the ring)


The Attempt at a Solution



I took the derivative of Equation 2 and set it equal to 0 to find the maximum x value
x=(a*sqrt(2))/2 and I know that to be the correct answer for where the maximum E occurs; but upon attempting to plug this back into the original equation to find what the maximum E would be, I get the wrong answer every time. Any advice as to what I'm doing wrong?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Hi Stang289GT. Welcome to PF.

If you do not show what you have done, I cannot figure out where you went wrong. Also, please note that sometimes when you write something up for someone else to see, you find your own mistakes.
 
Hmmm...okay.
(there's a figure that goes along with this, but I can't upload it...)

Plugging in the maximum x=(a*sqrt(2))/2 value into equation 2 you get:

Emax=(k_e*Q*((a*sqrt(2))/2))/(((a*sqrt(2))/2)^2 + a^2)^(3/2)
simplifying this, I think it's supposed to be:
Emax=(k_e*Q*sqrt(2))/6a
but this answer is not correct. Is there an equation other than this one that I should be using?
 
Assuming that your expression for the E-field is correct, your problem is probably in your simplification. It would help if you wrote

[tex]\frac{a \sqrt{2}}{2}=\frac{a}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]

then the denominator becomes

[tex](\frac{a^{2}}{2}+a^{2})^{3/2}=(\frac{3 a^{2}}{2})^{3/2}[/tex]

and simplify from there.
 

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