What is the meaning of differential cross section in scattering theory?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of differential cross section in scattering theory, exploring its definition, interpretation, and implications in the context of particle scattering. Participants engage with theoretical aspects, mathematical formulations, and conceptual clarifications related to the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the differential cross section, suggesting it represents a "density" for the probability that a particle will scatter in a specific direction.
  • Another participant clarifies that the differential cross section relates to solid angles and emphasizes that it should not be squared, noting the need for two angles to describe a 3D scattering process.
  • A participant acknowledges the clarification and reflects on the idea of "probability density over the angles," questioning how to effectively explain this concept.
  • Concerns are raised about the pictorial representation of solid angles in Sakurai's definition, particularly regarding the dependence of the solid angle on the chosen point within the potential area and whether these variations are significant.
  • Another participant adds that in scattering theory, sources can be treated as delta function sources, implying that defining a specific point inside the source may not be necessary.

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Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement, particularly regarding the interpretation of the differential cross section and the implications of solid angle variations. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different perspectives and clarifications.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about solid angles and the mathematical treatment of scattering processes, which are not fully resolved.

Kontilera
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Hello!
I´m confused about this concept.. It seems rather trivial, but my teacher is not that pedagogical and describes it as a rather diffcult concept so maybe I misunderstood it.

Given the definition in Sakurai and the scattering of only one particle it seem to be a kind of "denisty" per radians for the probability (or rather amplitude) that the particle will be scattered in this direction.

In other words for a small interval in our angle (lets say inbetween a and b) an estimation of the probability for our particle to come out in this direction should be given by:P(\theta \in [a,b] )= |(b - a) \cdot \frac{d \sigma}{d \Omega}\big|_{\frac{a+b}{2}}\,\,|^2.

Is this a good intuitional picture to have in mind when going to the next lecture?
 
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You're close, except that ##\Omega## is a solid angle and not just an angle. Also you shouldn't be squaring the differential cross section.

We need two angles to describe a 3D scattering process, usually ##\theta## (the angle the outgoing path makes to the incoming path) and ##\phi## (the azimuthal angle). The probability for a particle to scatter in a direction close to ##(\theta, \phi)##--say, within ##d\theta## in the ##\theta## angle and and within ##d\phi## in the ##\phi## angle--is proportional to

\cos \theta d\theta d\phi \frac{d \sigma}{d \Omega}(\theta, \phi)

Here ##\cos \theta d\theta d\phi## is the amount of the solid angle we are looking at (which we might call ##d \Omega##), and the analog of your (b-a) above.

Note that the expression above still isn't a probability. It has units of area; it's a cross section.
 
Yeah, that makes sense. Looked up the definition again and it is actually a "probability density over the angles"... Thanks. :)

I know what I mean but "density" over angles? does it make sense? How would you say it when trying to explain the concept?
 
This definition, pictorially describe in Sakurai, doesn't seem to obvious. I mean in the picture he paints the solid angle, ## \Omega ## from a point in the potential area to an "area of observation", ##\sigma##, but this solid angle does indeed depend on which point we choose inside our potential... Do we neglect these variantions our why don't they matter?
 
Kontilera said:
This definition, pictorially describe in Sakurai, doesn't seem to obvious. I mean in the picture he paints the solid angle, ## \Omega ## from a point in the potential area to an "area of observation", ##\sigma##, but this solid angle does indeed depend on which point we choose inside our potential... Do we neglect these variantions our why don't they matter?
In general theory of scattering,the source is composed of delta function sources(you treat it like that).So in case of generality you can not define any point inside the source.it will be considered as point source.
 

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