What is the meaning of positive phase in a bode plot?

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The discussion focuses on the interpretation of positive phase in a Bode plot, specifically in the context of a MATLAB-generated phase plot. The user utilizes a transfer function defined as G = 100*(1+0.017i*w)./(1i.*w.*(1+0.05i.*w).*(1+0.0025i.*w).*(1+0.001i.*w)) to illustrate the phase relationship. Key insights include the understanding that Bode plots represent steady-state relationships between input and output signals, which can exhibit phase shifts independent of time. The user acknowledges the importance of the steady-state nature of Bode plots in interpreting phase shifts.

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Homework Statement


I have a bode plot with a positive phase.

Homework Equations


this is a MATLAB code for the thing
Code:
% bode phase plot
w = logspace(1, 4, 100);
G = 100*(1+0.017i*w)./(1i.*w.*(1+0.05i.*w).*(1+0.0025i.*w).*(1+0.001i.*w));
fi = atand(imag(G)./real(G));
semilogx(w, fi); % x-axis: log(omega*j), y-axis: phase in degrees

The Attempt at a Solution


Nothing to solve, there's just one thing I don't get: if phase means "relation between input and output signal", how can output signal come before the input?
 
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Keep in mind that the signals being compared are not starting from some t=0. They are a depiction of some steady-state relationship between theoretically eternal sinusoids, and as such can exhibit a relative phase shift.
 
yeah, i thought this would be the explanation, and i neglected that bode plot is steady-state only.

thanks!
 

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