What Is the Minimum Mass M1 to Prevent Slipping on a 19.1° Slope?

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The problem involves a block of mass M resting on a 19.1° slope, connected by a string over a pulley to a hanging block of mass 1.86 kg. The coefficients of static and kinetic friction are provided, and the goal is to determine the minimum mass M1 that will prevent slipping.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up equations of motion based on forces acting on the blocks, including gravitational and frictional forces. They express confusion about their calculations leading to an incorrect answer.
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A block of mass M resting on a 19.1° slope is shown. The block has coefficients of friction μs=0.788 and μk=0.482 with the surface. It is connected via a massless string over a massless, frictionless pulley to a hanging block of mass 1.86 kg. What is the minimum mass M1 that will stick and not slip?

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In terms of mass 1, following eqn can be written:

m1g sin 19.1 - T - Ff = 0

which can be rewritten as:

m1g sin 19.1 - T - m1g cos 19.1 (friction coefficient) = 0
right? since the object is at rest.
then i found T by equating it to m2g (T = m2g...see the diagram as to why i have donet this)

Hence m1g sin 19.1 - m2g - m1g cos 19.1 (0.788) = 0
and then solved for m1...but I am not getting the right answer
I don't understand why my approach is wrong...where did i go wrong here?
 
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please help, much appreciated
 
Plx

im literally bursting into tears right now, please
this question has been frustrating me for the last couple of days
 
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m1g sin 19.1 - T - Ff = 0

Apparently, you mess up the sign in Ff. When you are pulling the mass 1 uphill with tension T, the friction force shall point to the opposite to T.
 

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