What is the most general solution for a 2-DOF system?

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The discussion revolves around the general solution for a two-degree-of-freedom (2-DOF) vibrating system, specifically addressing the assumptions made in the equations of motion for free vibrations of multi-degree-of-freedom (MDOF) systems. Participants explore the implications of assuming a common frequency for all components of the system's motion versus allowing different frequencies for each degree of freedom.

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  • One participant questions the assumption of a common exponent for all components of the motion, proposing instead that each component could have its own frequency.
  • Another participant argues that the concept of "vibration" implies a repeating motion across the system, which would not be possible if different parts vibrated at different frequencies.
  • A subsequent reply suggests that if initial conditions are random, the resulting motion would be a combination of vibration modes, potentially leading to non-periodic behavior unless the frequencies are in a simple ratio.
  • Another participant discusses the mathematical approach to solving the equations of motion, indicating that the eigenvalue problem leads to a general solution that incorporates the concept of mode shapes.
  • It is noted that the mathematical formulation can be proven to be the most general solution, although this is presented without reference to physical implications.

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Participants express differing views on the assumption of a common frequency for all components of the system. While some argue for the necessity of a single frequency to maintain periodic motion, others propose that allowing different frequencies could be valid. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these assumptions.

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Participants highlight the complexity of the motion resulting from arbitrary initial conditions and the potential for non-periodic behavior unless specific frequency ratios are maintained. The discussion also touches on the mathematical treatment of the equations of motion, which may not fully capture the physical nuances of the system.

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Hi all,

I have a question about Multi DOF vibrating systems. For free vibration of undamped MDOF systems, we have the equations of motion as :

M \ddot{q} + K {q} = {0} (1)

Where,
M - n x n mass matrix
K - n x n stiffness matrix
{q} - n x 1 vector of generalized coordinates

Most vibrations book try to obtain the eigenvalue problem by assuming the solution to (1) as
{q} = {Q} e^{j \omega t} (2)

For a 2-DOF system, (2) is
q_{1} = Q_{1} e^{j \omega t} (scalar eqn, 1st component of {q})
q_{2} = Q_{2} e^{j \omega t} (scalar eqn, 2nd component of {q})

My question is why do we assume the same exponent for all components of {q}? Why not assume (for a 2 DOF system) the solution as
q_{1} = Q_{1} e^{j \omega_{1} t}
q_{1} = Q_{1} e^{j \omega_{2} t}

ie, {q} = W Q, where W is a diagonal matrix containing the exponent terms?

Thanks,
yogesh
 
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The reason is that the idea of "vibration" means that the whole object keeps repeating exactly the same motion in each cycle of vibration. If the frequencies of different parts of the object were different, that would not happen.

Of course the actual motion of the system can be a linear combination of all the possible modes of vibration, but that would mean you were assuming a motion like
q_1 = Q_{11}e^{j\omega_1 t} + Q_{12}e^{j\omega_2 t}
q_2 = Q_{21}e^{j\omega_1 t} + Q_{22}e^{j\omega_2 t}
which isn't very useful if you want to find \omega_1 and \omega_2.
 
^AlephZero,
Thanks for the reply. Does that mean if I give random initial displacements (and/or velocities) to both the masses and let go, and trace out q_{1} and q_{2}, we will see periodic variations in the response?
 
The motion would be a combination of both vibration modes. Unless the two frequencies are in a simple ratio like 2:1 or 3:2 the motion will not look "periodic". For example a graph like \cos(t) + 0.5 \cos(\sqrt2 t) shows the sort of motion you would get in the general case.
 
Agree with what you said. Let's say we didn't know about modes and we want to solve the EOM for a 2-DOF system. If we want to assume a solution to the equations, how would you proceed? What would prompt us to use the same frequency for both the masses?
 
If you forget about physics and just consider this as a math problem, the EOM is a linear 2nd order differential equation.

If the EOM had 1 DOF, the standard solution method is to assume a solution x = A e^{pt}, substitute into the equation, and get a quadratic equation for p. You then find the corresponding values of A from the initial conditions x(0) and \dot x(0).

For a matrix equation the same method works, if you take x and A as vectors. The equation for p is now an eigenvalue equation (K + p^2M)A = 0. For each eigenvalue p_i there is a corresponding eigvenvector A_i (multiplied by an arbitrary scaliing factor). The general solution is then
\sum_i c_i A_i e^{p_i t}
where as before the constants c_i are determined by the intial conditions.

Each separate solution A_i e^{p_i t} looks like a "vibrating mode shape" of the structure.

Of course all the p's are pure imaginary numbers, so we write p_i = j \omega_i and the eigenvalue equation is usually written as (K - \omega^2M)A = 0, but I'm are pretending I don't know any physics here!

It is possible to prove mathematically that this really is the most general solution of the EOM.
 

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