What is the Net Charge of a Gold Nugget After Removing 1% of Its Electrons?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net charge of a gold nugget after removing 1% of its electrons. The subject area includes concepts from chemistry and physics, particularly related to atomic structure and electric charge.

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the gold nugget, including its mass and the number of electrons present. There are attempts to convert mass to moles and then to the number of atoms, leading to calculations of the total number of electrons. Questions arise about the implications of removing electrons on the net charge.

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Some participants have provided calculations regarding the number of electrons and the resulting charge after the removal of electrons. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between protons, electrons, and the resulting charge, but no consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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Participants note that the gold nugget starts with a neutral charge and that the removal of electrons should logically increase the net charge. There are references to specific values for charge and mass, but the discussion remains focused on understanding the concepts rather than arriving at a definitive solution.

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Suppose a 1.68 g nugget of pure gold has zero net charge. What would be its net charge after it has 1% of its electrons removed?

Answer in C
Mass
Electric charge of proton = 1.602e-19 C 1.673e-27 kg
Electric charge of electron = -1.602e-19 C 9.109e-31 kg
Electron charge of neutron = 0 1.675e-27 kg

I have attempted one answer of 1.602e-21 C, but I am really confused at how to obtain the solution. I know this is supposed to be an easy problem, but I am just confused. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
 
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How many electrons are in 1.68 grams?
 
The first thing that is needed is to convert 1.68 g gold into moles, which comes out to 1.68 / 196.97 = 0.0085 mol gold.

Since it starts off as a neutral sample, there must be exactly one electron for every proton present. Every gold atom has 79 protons, which means each atom would have initially 79 electrons.

So, convert the moles of gold into atoms by (0.0085 mol)*(6.022*10^23 atoms/mol) = 5.14 x 10^21 atoms of gold. This implies that there are (5.14 x 10^21)*(79 protons/atom)*(1 electron/1 proton) = 4.058 x 10^23 electrons present. One percent of these gone corresponds to (1-0.01)*(4.058 x 10^23) = 4.02 x 10^23 electrons.

Now, find the charge on the protons and electrons
4.023 x 10^23 electrons*(-1.602e-19 C) = -64453 C
4.064 x 10^23 protons*(1.602e-19 C) = 65104 C

Add the charges together to get +651 C

Concept check: This makes sense because if the sample is losing electrons, the net charge of the sample should increase
 
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chemhelper said:
The first thing that is needed is to convert 1.68 g gold into moles, which comes out to 1.68 / 196.97 = 0.0085 mol gold.

Since it starts off as a neutral sample, there must be exactly one electron for every proton present. Every gold atom has 79 protons, which means each atom would have initially 79 electrons.

So, convert the moles of gold into atoms by (0.0085 mol)*(6.022*10^23 atoms/mol) = 5.14 x 10^21 atoms of gold. This implies that there are (5.14 x 10^21)*(79 protons/atom)*(1 electron/1 proton) = 4.058 x 10^23 electrons present. One percent of these gone corresponds to (1-0.01)*(4.058 x 10^23) = 4.02 x 10^23 electrons.

Now, find the charge on the protons and electrons
4.023 x 10^23 electrons*(-1.602e-19 C) = -64453 C
4.064 x 10^23 protons*(1.602e-19 C) = 65104 C

Add the charges together to get +651 C

Concept check: This makes sense because if the sample is losing electrons, the net charge of the sample should increase
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