What Is the Net Thermal Radiation Transfer Rate for a Stretched Cylinder?

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The problem involves calculating the net thermal radiation transfer rate for a solid cylinder with given dimensions, emissivity, and temperatures. The discussion centers on the effects of stretching the cylinder and how it impacts the thermal radiation transfer rate.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formula for the area of a solid cylinder and question the implications of stretching the cylinder on its dimensions and volume. There is a focus on whether the height of the cylinder changes when the radius is altered.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationship between the volume and dimensions of the cylinder. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of volume to determine the new height after stretching, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach for part B.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the assumption that the mass of the cylinder remains constant during stretching, which raises questions about how the volume and dimensions should be recalculated for the new configuration.

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Homework Statement



A solid cylinder of radius r1 = 2.5 cm, length h1 = 5.1 cm, emissivity 0.90, and temperature 28°C is suspended in an environment of temperature 46°C. (a) What is the cylinder's net thermal radiation transfer rate P1? (b) If the cylinder is stretched until its radius is r2 = 0.51 cm, its net thermal radiation transfer rate becomes P2. What is the ratio P2/P1?

Homework Equations



P = σεA(Tenv^4 - T^4)

The Attempt at a Solution



My answer to part A is correct. I got P = (5.67E-8)(.9)(.0119)(319^4 - 301^4) = 1.304 W

But my answer to part B is wrong apparently. I don't know what I did wrong. But the formula for Area of Solid Cylinder = 2*pi*r^2 + 2*pi*r*h

I used r1 = .025 m and h1 = .051 m for Area in part a. But in part B the only thing I changed was r2 = .0051 m to find the new area. Then got P2 and divided it by P1 to get the ratio. But it says part B is wrong. What exactly did I do wrong with the area in part b? Am I to assume h changes as well? My exact formula for part B Area is this: A = 2*pi*(.0051)^2 + 2*pi*(.0051)(.051) = .0018 m^2
 
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VitaX said:
But my answer to part B is wrong apparently. I don't know what I did wrong. But the formula for Area of Solid Cylinder = 2*pi*r^2 + 2*pi*r*h

I used r1 = .025 m and h1 = .051 m for Area in part a. But in part B the only thing I changed was r2 = .0051 m to find the new area.

If the cylinder was stretched, presumably it stretched in some direction...
Also presumably, the overall mass of the cylinder didn't change (it's still got the same amount of "stuff") so what does that say about the volume of the stretched cylinder?
 
gneill said:
If the cylinder was stretched, presumably it stretched in some direction...
Also presumably, the overall mass of the cylinder didn't change (it's still got the same amount of "stuff") so what does that say about the volume of the stretched cylinder?

So you are saying use V = pi*r^2*h to find the volume in part A. Then use that same volume and radius 2 in part B to find height 2. Then find the new area of part B using the new height and radius?
 
VitaX said:
So you are saying use V = pi*r^2*h to find the volume in part A. Then use that same volume and radius 2 in part B to find height 2. Then find the new area of part B using the new height and radius?

Sounds like a plan!
 

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