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The discussion revolves around frustrations with current documentary programming, particularly criticizing the History Channel's focus on sensational topics like time travel conspiracies instead of real historical content. Participants express disappointment over National Geographic's sale to Fox, fearing a decline in quality programming. The conversation shifts to lighter topics, including humorous anecdotes about everyday life, such as a malfunctioning kitchen fan discovered to be blocked by installation instructions. There are also discussions about the challenges of understanding various dialects in Belgium, the complexities of language, and personal experiences with weather and housing in California. Members share their thoughts on food, including a peculiar dish of zucchini pancakes served with strawberry yogurt, and delve into mathematical concepts related to sandwich cutting and the properties of numbers. The thread captures a blend of serious commentary and lighthearted banter, reflecting a diverse range of interests and perspectives among participants.
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I think the saying, supposedly by Einstein, needs rethinking: " Insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results".
What if I roll a die or flip a coin twice?
 
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@dlgoff : I am sort on the same boat you are with Windows: SQL Server keeps prompting me to " upgrade"( update). I am comfortable with the present version and doing my best to avoid updating.
 
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WWGD said:
@dlgoff : I am sort on the same boat you are with Windows: SQL Server keeps prompting me to " upgrade"( update). I am comfortable with the present version and doing my best to avoid updating.
Give GWX Control Panel a try. That will probably stop that server from asking all the time. There are lots of options built into the program.

Check out my notification area:
notification.jpg


I'm never asked.
 
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I just realized that i am always confusing these names, and it makes me stressed:
Lagrange, Laguerre, Laplace, Legendre.
 
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Rant of the Day:

Ebay delivery sucks. I average about 10 days for getting stuff (from date of purchase to delivered). Fastest, I think has been 6 days. The longer ones are fully 14 days (two weeks).

I only go with them, b/c they sell stuff you can't find on Amazon. Rare stuff. Although, I am opposed to Amazon's treatment of warehouse workers, so there's that too. Wish I could combine Amazon's speed with Ebay's hard-to-find stuff and have happy workers.
 
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kyphysics said:
Rant of the Day:

Ebay delivery sucks. I average about 10 days for getting stuff (from date of purchase to delivered). Fastest, I think has been 6 days. The longer ones are fully 14 days (two weeks).

I only go with them, b/c they sell stuff you can't find on Amazon. Rare stuff. Although, I am opposed to Amazon's treatment of warehouse workers, so there's that too. Wish I could combine Amazon's speed with Ebay's hard-to-find stuff and have happy workers.
I gave up on them at first because of this:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/ebay-just-lost-a-buyer.998195/#post-6441492
But bit the bullet and went back because of "hard-to-find stuff".
 
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My new book: " Peanuts,in a nutshell".
 
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I was loading music on a flash drive for my car to listen to during an upcoming trip. Just for the heck of it, I loaded a movie on it also. Surprisingly, it works great and displays perfectly on the center console. It will be for my wife's entertainment when I'm driving though (I've seen the movie many times and will be paying attention to the road). :smile:
 
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Needless to say :
 
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Amazing tutorial on Tensor Flow. Finally,enough theory without being overwhelming and enough practice, going back and forth.
 
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WWGD said:
My new book: " Peanuts,in a nutshell".

Peanuts, to me, have one of the weirdest methods of producing a seed that I have ever heard of.

Since they are harvested from the ground, you might wonder if they are some kind of root vegetable.
On the other hand, the peanut looks exactly like a seed, inside its husk, and new plants can be grown from them (but the same can happen from some roots (potatoes, carrot parts, etc.)).
However, seeds come from flowers. You need a flower. I have seen underwater flowers, but never heardof an underground one (self-fertilizing?).
They also don't have the normal anatomical connection to the plant, typical of a root vegetable. They don't grow out of the roots as some kind of enlargement, and connect to the rest of the plant that way. They grow for like little branches that grow from the air into the ground!
So what is going on here?

Ask de Google:
from here:
Screen Shot 2021-06-06 at 3.48.25 PM.png


They flower above ground and then grow the developing seed into the ground. The developing seeds down, inside a thin tube that grows out and extends underground.
Seeds develop there (underground) as peanuts.

Wikipedia on peanuts here.

It would be interesting to know what their adaptive advantage might have been in adapting this way of doing things.
The picture shows a short plant, as grown on farms. They may, in nature, just vine along on the ground, inserting seeds into different areas (and environments) as it goes. Could be seen as a seed distribution mechanism (often selected for).
 
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BillTre said:
Peanuts, to me, have one of the weirdest methods of producing a seed that I have ever heard of.

Since they are harvested from the ground, you might wonder if they are some kind of root vegetable.
On the other hand, the peanut looks exactly like a seed, inside its husk, and new plants can be grown from them (but the same can happen from some roots (potatoes, carrot parts, etc.)).
However, seeds come from flowers. You need a flower. I have seen underwater flowers, but never heardof an underground one (self-fertilizing?).
They also don't have the normal anatomical connection to the plant, typical of a root vegetable. They don't grow out of the roots as some kind of enlargement, and connect to the rest of the plant that way. They grow for like little branches that grow from the air into the ground!
So what is going on here?

Ask de Google:
from here:
View attachment 284125

They flower above ground and then grow the developing seed into the ground. The developing seeds down, inside a thin tube that grows out and extends underground.
Seeds develop there (underground) as peanuts.

Wikipedia on peanuts here.

It would be interesting to know what their adaptive advantage might have been in adapting this way of doing things.
The picture shows a short plant, as grown on farms. They may, in nature, just vine along on the ground, inserting seeds into different areas (and environments) as it goes. Could be seen as a seed distribution mechanism (often selected for).
And they are considered Legumes instead of nuts, strangely enough. I am not too strong on my bio classification schemes, I think within the Linneus classification?
 
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From the little I have read, it seems they were originally grouped with some nut tree plants, but that was only based on taste.
Further research has identified better traits for classifying.
 
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BillTre said:
From the little I have read, it seems they were originally grouped with some nut tree plants, but that was only based on taste.
Further research has identified better traits for classifying.
Would these classification techniques be derived from Anova? I mean, two obects are within same class if there is a small variation in several traits (variation within classes) and in different class otherwise (Variation between classes)? EDIT: I am interested in general on the issue of whether some phenomenon is " a thing" that needs a separate classification. As an example, if some new animal were discovered: should we come up with a new class scheme for it or incorporate it under an existing class? What criteria is used? I mean , as I understand, animals in the same species can inter-reproduce, but is this the classification scheme?
 
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Borg said:
my wife's entertainment when I'm driving though (I've seen the movie many times and will be paying attention to the road).
Though the wording may change in your state or province, law enforcement agencies are very clear on the rules about watching videos while driving. In most states and provinces, having a display within view of the driver that shows video while the vehicle is in motion is illegal.
 
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What if the wife/other passenger were to move to the back seat?
 
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I didn't think about it being illegal since I wouldn't be watching but yeah, that wouldn't be a good excuse. I should probably stick to texting like all of the other drivers. :oldtongue:
 
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WWGD said:
Would these classification techniques be derived from Anova? I mean, two obects are within same class if there is a small variation in several traits (variation within classes) and in different class otherwise (Variation between classes)?
Anova would be used for statistical assessment of differences in traits.
There are just lots of different traits that sound like they might not have been considered originally.

WWGD said:
Would these classification techniques be derived from Anova? I mean, two obects are within same class if there is a small variation in several traits (variation within classes) and in different class otherwise (Variation between classes)? EDIT: I am interested in general on the issue of whether some phenomenon is " a thing" that needs a separate classification. As an example, if some new animal were discovered: should we come up with a new class scheme for it or incorporate it under an existing class? What criteria is used? I mean , as I understand, animals in the same species can inter-reproduce, but is this the classification scheme?
I find this issue interesting also.
There have been and continue to be several definitions for species. Ability to interbreed is one, but there are others. They deal with different situations in slightly different ways.

I have been thinking about this recently with respect to how a competing population of competing animals is defined. This would define members of a population that compete for a shared set of resources.
The competition among these individuals would define them as remembers of a competing population.
This would be a natural grouping based on the interactions among the group's members.
It would be a dynamic collection. The population members could change depending on how its members interacted with each other and the resources they were competing for.
 
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BillTre said:
Anova would be used for statistical assessment of differences in traits.
There are just lots of different traits that sound like they might not have been considered originally. I find this issue interesting also.
There have been and continue to be several definitions for species. Ability to interbreed is one, but there are others. They deal with different situations in slightly different ways.

I have been thinking about this recently with respect to how a competing population of competing animals is defined. This would define members of a population that compete for a shared set of resources.
The competition among these individuals would define them as remembers of a competing population.
This would be a natural grouping based on the interactions among the group's members.
It would be a dynamic collection. The population members could change depending on how its members interacted with each other and the resources they were competing for.
Maybe clustering, nearest neighbors Or other machine learning techniques, etc. , could be considered.
Edit: I remember this book " The Goal", by E Goldblatt that described the logic for the design of the Periodic Table. It was not the main topic of the book , but it was interesting nonetheless.
 
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LCSphysicist said:
I just realized that i am always confusing these names, and it makes me stressed:
Lagrange, Laguerre, Laplace, Legendre.
Unfortunately these things, noise, only/mostly go away with time. Next semester or two, they will separate. Somethingthathas helped me has been just doing 15 minutes of deep breathing daily. Not sure why but it has helped me feel more mentally clear.
 
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Industries that emit greenhouse gases are adopting "Net Zero" policies, meaning they will still emit, but they will offset it by paying someone not to cut their trees. Or something.

The wind turbine industry has the problem of bird kill. They could have Net Zero bird kill if they offset it by offering free family planning services for cats.
 
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WWGD said:
And they are considered Legumes instead of nuts, strangely enough.
Hence "goober peas," as in :

Lying in the shadow underneath the trees, Goodness how delicious, eating goober peas!
Peas! Peas! Peas! Peas! Eating goober peas! Goodness how delicious, eating goober peas!
 
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gmax137 said:
Hence "goober peas," as in :

Lying in the shadow underneath the trees, Goodness how delicious, eating goober peas!
Peas! Peas! Peas! Peas! Eating goober peas! Goodness how delicious, eating goober peas!
When they ask me at the salad bar: peas? I flash the peace sign ✌: peas/peace, ( please) brother!

Edit: Just like when a rep asked me: " Are you familiar with Greenpeace"? . Yes, I always put them on my salad.
 
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So do I need an app or a nap? Or peace/peace?
 
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I decided to try a little rock polishing and picked up this National Geographic Rock Tumbler:
rock tumbler.jpg

Here's my first run:
rocks-1.jpg
 
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dlgoff said:
Here's my first run:
After the first run? How long and what grit?
 
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Keith_McClary said:
After the first run? How long and what grit?
First run meaning, using all three four grits for the recommended times. Many days.
 
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dlgoff said:
I decided to try a little rock polishing and picked up this National Geographic Rock Tumbler:
View attachment 284242
Here's my first run:
View attachment 284241
Rock festivals need clarification : Obsidians or AC/DC?
 
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WWGD said:
Rock festivals need clarification : Obsidians or AC/DC?
I miss this t-shirt I used to have titled " Heavy Metal" that contained pictures of elements of the periodic table.
 
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Still can't get used to it with the masks, mostly the black ones, when looking at women from far away: is that a #$@ mustache ?!
 
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Somehow found the meaning of the word "Tatterdemalion" while listening to my You Tube feed which brought up the song "Ogre Battle " by Queen. I can't see it coming up in any daily conversation other than the likes of " You know a weird word I learned on the Internet?
 
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Time soon for the yearly number-0 haircut. Sheep -like I guess.

Interesting reply, dude: Do you have Tourette's? #$%@ no!
 
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Maybe Michael Caine could name one of his children Marco . Or Morco.
 
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Borg said:
I didn't think about it being illegal since I wouldn't be watching
On some cars it is disabled when the car is moving.
 
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Keith_McClary said:
On some cars it is disabled when the car is moving.
Don't some cars include screens on the back seats?
 
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I once (last year) looked up some maps on an official government website about Californian wildfires, simply to see which specific areas have been concerned. It took PG&E about two hours to contact me. I get emails from them ever since, but now they corrected my name (derived from an email address) from a bad Spanish male to an American / European female version. Do you think they might send me their source code? Is that already AI?

Maybe I should answer and ask them how they plan to deliver electricity and gas if I changed my supplier to PG&E?!
 
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Seems in Spring/Summer, socks are like tree rings, allow you to tell someone's age by how high up they go in a person's knees.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I once (last year) looked up some maps on an official government website about Californian wildfires, simply to see which specific areas have been concerned. It took PG&E about two hours to contact me. I get emails from them ever since, but now they corrected my name (derived from an email address) from a bad Spanish male to an American / European female version. Do you think they might send me their source code? Is that already AI?

Maybe I should answer and ask them how they plan to deliver electricity and gas if I changed my supplier to PG&E?!
Are they still regularly providing service with the fires raging on?
 
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WWGD said:
Are they still regularly providing service with the fires raging on?
Perhaps that is the idea. There are no fires here, yet.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I once (last year) looked up some maps on an official government website about Californian wildfires, simply to see which specific areas have been concerned. It took PG&E about two hours to contact me. I get emails from them ever since, but now they corrected my name (derived from an email address) from a bad Spanish male to an American / European female version. Do you think they might send me their source code? Is that already AI?

Maybe I should answer and ask them how they plan to deliver electricity and gas if I changed my supplier to PG&E?!
Why did they contact you? Did they assume you were a customer in need?
 
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Good description of the department head: Looks like a lumberjack. But a lumberjack at the end of the day.
 
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WWGD said:
Why did they contact you? Did they assume you were a customer in need?
I surfed on a Californian (or federal, I don't remember) website and zoomed in on a map of a few locations. I wanted to know how close @berkeman was. I guess they simply assume that I am a Californian. It was a MS .com email address. But what happened that they changed my name from male to female?
 
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fresh_42 said:
I surfed on a Californian (or federal, I don't remember) website and zoomed in on a map of a few locations. I wanted to know how close @berkeman was. I guess they simply assume that I am a Californian. It was a MS .com email address. But what happened that they changed my name from male to female?
AI/ML fail?
 
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WWGD said:
AI/ML fail?
Could be. The actual address was born out of an urgent need, you know, from a website where they want to send you a password. I use it since then for quick and dirty accesses, and to channel spam. The name I used - only a prename - doesn't really exist. It sounds Italian, but is written wrong, or Spanish, but only to those who do not know better. So it doesn't fit in any category, although it is clearly a name. The AI changed it into a valid female version, but not into a valid Spanish or Italian version, only in an American / European one.

That's why I am curious to see their source code.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Could be. The actual address was born out of an urgent need, you know, from a website where they want to send you a password. I use it since then for quick and dirty accesses, and to channel spam. The name I used - only a prename - doesn't really exist. It sounds Italian, but is written wrong, or Spanish, but only to those who do not know better. So it doesn't fit in any category, although it is clearly a name. The AI changed it into a valid female version, but not into a valid Spanish or Italian version, only in an American / European one.

That's why I am curious to see their source code.
Cant you just R-click on their page to view the source?
 
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WWGD said:
Cant you just R-click on their page to view the source?
That doesn't show me the decision, the location where the correction took place. What changed a wrong spelled male Italian name from the email address into a correct French / English / German female name in the letter? And why?
 
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fresh_42 said:
That doesn't show me the decision, the location where the correction took place. What changed a wrong spelled male Italian name from the email address into a correct French / English / German female name in the letter? And why?
Of course, I meant do some forward/reverse engineering and testing. But maybe youre not that interested to put all that effort.
 
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WWGD said:
Of course, I meant do some forward/reverse engineering and testing. But maybe youre not that interested to put all that effort.
The interesting part is the following. We are at the beginning of the AI era, and the example shows how easy current systems could be outwit. A small margin of inaccuracies (missing IP check during my visit on a Californian website, one false letter in a name, ignoring the fact that .com isn't exclusively American) led to completely wrong conclusions. I expect massive improvements in the years coming.

Or will improvements be too expensive? They probably send thousands of such emails and don't expect more than, say a dozen of them that do not end up in the bin.

Google is better at this from my experience.
 
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fresh_42 said:
The interesting part is the following. We are at the beginning of the AI era, and the example shows how easy current systems could be outwit. A small margin of inaccuracies (missing IP check during my visit on a Californian website, one false letter in a name, ignoring the fact that .com isn't exclusively American) led to completely wrong conclusions. I expect massive improvements in the years coming.

Or will improvements be too expensive? They probably send thousands of such emails and don't expect more than, say a dozen of them that do not end up in the bin.

Google is better at this from my experience.
I guess then a lack of robustness? All I can tell is Microsoft's outlook does not seem to train its spam catcher even given the free input it gets ( when people move data from Inbox to Spam/trash or the other way around). I have seen the false positives, negatives repeated for years.
 
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Most quickly recognized music plays: (#3: 4 notes, #2: 3 notes, #1: 1 note)

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Anybody guess?
 
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