What is the pressure needed to sedate a dog in 1 second?

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The discussion revolves around a veterinary scenario where a vet is attempting to sedate a dog using a syringe. The problem involves calculating the pressure required to inject a sedative through a needle within a specific time frame, taking into account the viscosity of the fluid and the dimensions of the syringe.

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  • Participants explore the application of Poiseuille's and Bernoulli's equations, questioning which is more appropriate for determining pressure and flow rate.
  • There is discussion about converting units and the implications of using flow rate in the calculations.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the relationships between diameter, radius, and pressure.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts at calculations and questioning each other's reasoning. There is a collaborative effort to clarify concepts and ensure correct unit conversions, though no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final calculations.

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Participants note the need for precise unit conversions and the importance of understanding the relationship between diameter and radius in the context of fluid dynamics. There is also mention of the specific requirements of the problem, such as the time constraint for the injection.

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Homework Statement


Jane, a vet, is trying to sedate a dog by injecting him with sedative in a hypodermic syringe that
has a needle 20mm long with internal diameter 0.4 mm. The vet wishes to inject the dog with
3 ml of anaesthetic that has viscosity 4 x10^-3 Pas. Since the dog is struggling hard, she needs
to get it into his bloodstream within 1 second.
(a) How much pressure needs to be applied to the fluid in the syringe barrel to achieve this
rate of flow through the needle?
(b) Explain why this is pressure is not absolute, but is relative to atmospheric pressure.
(c) If the barrel of the syringe is 10mm in diameter, what force does Jane need to apply to the
plunger to achieve the needed flow rate

Homework Equations


Poiseullie or Bernouli

The Attempt at a Solution


Hi there, I'm stuck at this question. I don't know if I should use pensoulli's equation or bernoulis! Well the question did ask how much pressure, but idk how to tackle this question :( I'm seeking advise please[/B]
 
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Are you looking for flow rate? Or, energy conservation? Which equation applies?
 
Flow rate I think. But again it asked for pressure also so i don't know where to start with.
 
Derek1997 said:
Flow rate
Which equation depends on ΔP?
 
Bystander said:
Which equation depends on ΔP?
heres what I think, so Q is flow rate right? can we do 3ml/1= 3ml/s? then sub the value inside the it into the poiseulles equation?
 
Yup.
 
Bystander said:
Yup.
is it actually?
 
It is; you'll have to convert/invert between CGS & MKS units (ml, Pa⋅s, mm, and so on).
 
alright, so here's what I've done=
delta p= 8*u*L.Q/pi*r^4
where I got my Q as 3m/s
I converted my Length into 0.02m
R= 0.0004m
Then i subbed the value inside equation as = 8.4x10^-3pa x 0.02m x 3m/s / pi x 0.0004^4= 2.38x10^10pa which looks weird!
 
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Derek1997 said:
internal diameter 0.4 mm
Derek1997 said:
Q as 3m/s
That looks high to me; can you double check it?
 
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I did but still yeilds me the same, although I'm not sure about one thing.. for r i used "internal diamater 0.4mm" which i converted to meters?
 
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Derek1997 said:
R= 0.0004m
Derek1997 said:
diamater 0.4mm"
Does radius equal diameter?
Derek1997 said:
viscosity 4 x10^-3 Pas
Not 8.4 ... :H
Derek1997 said:
3 ml
One milliliter is 10-6 m3.
 
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Bystander said:
Does radius equal diameter?

Not 8.4 ... :H
One milliliter is 10-6 m3.
haha I didn't do 8.4 it was type mistake, also in regard to radius, we are not given how am I suppose to find it?
 
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Half the diameter?
 
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Thanks mate, I gave you a life :) p.s if u had time check out my other question as well. Thanks
 
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Derek1997 said:
Thanks mate, I gave you a life :) p.s if u had time check out my other question as well. Thanks
like* haha
 
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All nighter?
 
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Nein, I am finished with my chem so I am about to sleep haha
 

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