What is the Probability of a Straight in a 5-Card Poker Hand?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of obtaining a straight in a five-card poker hand, specifically with the highest card being a ten. The original poster also inquires about the probability of a straight flush and the general probability of a straight.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the number of possible hands and considers the conditions for forming a straight. Some participants question the assumptions made about card colors and the definition of a straight versus a straight flush.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the definitions of straights and straight flushes. There is acknowledgment of a potential misunderstanding in the original poster's approach, and some guidance has been provided regarding the counting of hands.

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There is a note that the problem statement may define straights to include straight flushes, which could affect the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


In five-card poker, a straight consists of five cards with adja-cent denominations (e.g., 9 of clubs, 10 of hearts, jack of hearts, queen of spades, and king of clubs). Assuming that
aces can be high or low, if you are dealt a five-card hand, what is the probability that it will be a straight with high card 10? What is the probability that it will be a straight?
What is the probability that it will be a straight flush (all cards in the same suit)?


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First, I calculated the number of possible 5-card hands that can be dealt out: {{52}\choose{5}}=2598960. To answer the first question, I imagined how the cards could be dealt out to generate a straight, since order doesn't matter. I know that, to make a straight, Jacks , Queens, Kings, Aces, 1s, 2s ,3s 4s, and 5s are out of the question. So, if I was dealt a 10, there would be 4 choices (two black and two red); and since either a red or a black will be chosen, then there are only two possibilities for the 9. If the 10 happened to be hearts or diamonds, then the the 9 would have to be a spades or clubs. Using this reasoning for the rest of them, I calculated that there would 4 \cdot 2 \cdot 2 \cdot 2 \cdot 2 = 64 different straight hands with 10 as the highest card. Thus, the probability would be \frac{64}{2598960}=.000024625. However, the answer is .000394. What did I do wrong?
 
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So, if I was dealt a 10, there would be 4 choices (two black and two red); and since either a red or a black will be chosen, then there are only two possibilities for the 9.
What makes you think this? There's nothing that says that a straight has to have alternating red and black cards. 6♣, 7♠, 8♣, 9♣, 10♣ -- that's a straight with the highest card a ten. The only tricky issue is a hand such as 6♣, 7♣, 8♣, 9♣, 10♣ -- that's a straight flush. Is this also a straight? In the real game, it isn't. It's much, much better. However, you can also look at a straight flush as just being a special kind of straight, and this makes the math a bit easier.
 
Yes, I just realized I read the problem incorrectly, and so I didn't properly know what a straight was. 6♣, 7♣, 8♣, 9♣, 10♣ would only be a straight flush. Wouldn't there be 4 different straight flushes that could be formed with 6,7,8,9 and 10? And so if I calculated 4^5, I would have to subtract out 4? Because 4^5 would be counting both the number of straights and straight flushes?
 
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Do that and you'll come up with a value that is slightly smaller than the given "correct" answer of 0.000394. It appears that the authors consider a straight flush to be a straight.
 
Oh, I see. Thank you!
 
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Do that and you'll come up with a value that is slightly smaller than the given "correct" answer of 0.000394. It appears that the authors consider a straight flush to be a straight.
To be fair, the statement of the problem defines straights to include straight flushes.
 

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