What is the process behind biodeisel fuels.

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The discussion centers on the process behind biodiesel fuels, exploring its chemical composition and production methods. Participants express varying levels of knowledge and seek clarification on the topic, which encompasses theoretical and practical aspects of biodiesel.

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  • One participant expresses curiosity about biodiesel and its production process, indicating a desire to learn more due to upcoming volunteer work at a biodiesel facility.
  • Another participant suggests that reading about biodiesel on Wikipedia or searching online could provide basic information, questioning the need for discussion.
  • A different participant defends the value of discussing biodiesel with knowledgeable individuals, highlighting the benefits of interactive learning over passive reading.
  • One participant provides a simplified explanation of diesel fuel, describing it as a complex carbon molecule that ignites under pressure, and connects this to the production of biodiesel from vegetable oils, noting the chemical similarities between living plants and fossil fuels.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best way to learn about biodiesel, with some advocating for independent research and others emphasizing the importance of discussion. The understanding of biodiesel's chemical basis is presented without resolution of differing perspectives on learning methods.

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Some participants may have varying levels of familiarity with the chemistry of fuels, which could affect their understanding of the discussion. The explanation of biodiesel's properties relies on simplified chemical concepts that may not encompass all complexities involved.

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Hello all, I was just wondering the process behind biodeisels, because I've actually set up doing some volunteer work at a place called Blue Ridge Bio Fuels (or something like that) in NC, and I wanted to know more about it, because I know nothing. Actually, the guy I talked to is a major in physics and a mechanical engineer, how lucky, haha.
 
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The_Z_Factor said:
Hello all, I was just wondering the process behind biodeisels, because I've actually set up doing some volunteer work at a place called Blue Ridge Bio Fuels (or something like that) in NC, and I wanted to know more about it, because I know nothing. Actually, the guy I talked to is a major in physics and a mechanical engineer, how lucky, haha.

Why not just read about it on Wikipedia? Or do a search on Google?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
 
Mech_Engineer said:
Why not just read about it on Wikipedia? Or do a search on Google?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel



I find talking about it with people educated in the field happens to be more interesting and over-all better for gaining knowledge, especially since you can have conversations and ask specific questions that wikipedia may not (could possibly though) be able to answer.
 
I'm not sure how basic you wanted to start out, but perhaps the best way to understand biodiesel is by startign with what you already know about regular diesel. Diesel fuel is (simplified) a complex carbon molecule. These carbon chains bond readily with oxygen, especially the ones with seven carbon atoms. These "heptane" carbon molecules will ignite under pressure without even requiring a spark, and that's diesel fuel. This is, of course, a petroleum product; it comes from oil.

well, some pretty clever folk appearently made the connection between petrolium oil and vegatble oil, realizing that cooking oikl can be pretty darn flammable too, and decided to try buurning it for fuel in place of petrolium. Crazy thing is, it actually works! Plants that are alive have the same basic compounds in them as plants that have been dead a million years, and they produce oils filled with complex carbon chains, and those chains readily bond with oxygen yielding heat energy as a byproduct. Basically, biodiesel is a fossil fuel that has never been given time to fossilize.
 

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