What is the Range of y in (y+1)/(y-1)=sin2x/sin2a?

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The problem involves finding the range of the variable y in the equation (y+1)/(y-1)=sin2x/sin2a. The context is rooted in trigonometric identities and their implications on the values of y.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the original equation and the implications of the numerator and denominator on the range of y. There are attempts to clarify the distinction between range and domain, as well as the behavior of the function as the denominator approaches zero.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have offered insights into the behavior of the function and the relationship between y and the variable β, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding the range and domain.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion between the concepts of range and domain, with participants emphasizing the need to clarify the domain of y to determine its range accurately. Additionally, the potential for the denominator to be zero is highlighted as a critical point of consideration.

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Homework Statement



I got this expression while solving a problem.

(y+1)/(y-1)=sin2x/sin2a

we need to find the range of y

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The Attempt at a Solution



here y=(sin2x+sin2a)/(sin2x-sin2a)

Numerator of RHS lies between sin2a-1 and 1+sin2a
Denominator lies between -1-sin2a and 1-sin2a

so RHS lies between (sin2a-1)/(-1-sin2a) and (1+sin2a)/(1-sin2a)

on solving I got y lies between tan^2 (45-a) and tan^2 (45+a)

but the answer is opposite (i.e. y does not lie between them).
Please help.
 
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Did you remember that if a< x< b then (1/b)< 1/x< (1/a)? That, of course, is assuming that all numbers are positive. Here, since the denominator lies between -1- sin(2a) and 1- sin(2a) it can be both negative and positive and, for some x, will be 0. Of course, if the denominator goes to 0, the fraction goes to infinity so the domain can't be "between" two values.
 
We have to find the range of y. Not its domain.
 
One thing that could possibly help you with this is the formulae:
<br /> \sin A+\sin B=2\sin\left(\frac{a+b}{2}\right)\cos\left(\frac{a-b}{2}\right)<br />
And
<br /> \sin A-\sin B=2\cos\left(\frac{a+b}{2}\right)\sin\left(\frac{a-b}{2}\right)<br />
The only question is now, is what is the domain of y? Once you can tell us this then we can determine the range of y
 
Let \beta=\sin 2x/\sin 2a. Then

y=\frac{\beta+1}{\beta-1}

Try plotting y vs. β and then consider what the range of β is. Then perhaps you'll understand HallsofIvy's point.
 
vela said:
Let \beta=\sin 2x/\sin 2a. Then

y=\frac{\beta+1}{\beta-1}

Try plotting y vs. β and then consider what the range of β is. Then perhaps you'll understand HallsofIvy's point.

Thanks, I understood this time.
 

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