What is the Real Cause of Global Warming?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the causes of global warming, specifically examining anecdotal evidence presented by Simeonie Aqpik regarding changes in weather patterns and the direction of the sun. Participants explore the implications of this evidence and its relationship to established scientific understanding of global warming, including greenhouse gas contributions.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant cites Simeonie Aqpik's observations about the sun's rising direction as a potential cause of global warming, suggesting it contradicts the greenhouse gas narrative.
  • Another participant questions the validity of Aqpik's claim by pointing out that significant changes in the sun's position would be observable at equinoxes and solstices.
  • A different participant humorously suggests that Aqpik's choice to wear warmer clothing could be interpreted as a cause of global warming.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the anecdotal nature of Aqpik's evidence, arguing that it does not constitute scientific proof and questioning its seriousness in the broader debate on climate change.
  • One participant highlights the irony in using anecdotal evidence to support claims about global warming, suggesting that it reflects selective memory and fantasy rather than scientific rigor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; instead, there are multiple competing views regarding the validity and implications of anecdotal evidence in the context of global warming. The discussion remains unresolved with differing interpretations of Aqpik's claims.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concerns about the anecdotal nature of the evidence presented and its implications for scientific discourse. There are unresolved questions about the reliability of personal observations as scientific evidence.

Andre
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Finally, we now know the cause of global warming

http://www.nunatsiaq.com/news/nunavut/51223_10.html

Here is Simeonie Aqpik describing the shift in the weather, and why the Inuit knew the climate would change. Most of what tells is exactly what the AGW scaremongers love to hear, but wait, he also knows the reason why:

the sun rises from a different direction these days. I always use the sun as a guide, so I have noticed the difference.

There you go, and we were all thinking that it was the greenhouse gasses. So what does this say about the hype, anecdotal evidence, affirming the consequent fallacy etc, etc,
 
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If the direction the sun rose in were changing so significantly, wouldn't there be noticable changes at the equinoxes & solitices viewed from stone circles such as stonehenge, and other more definte mesaurements to back this up?
 
:rolleyes: Perhaps don't tell NASA, they would get quite upset if the sun would show up even a few arc seconds off.
 
Andre,

You missed the true problem here! Mr. Aqpik now wears warmer clothing than he did a long time ago. Ergo, warmer clothing causes global warming! ;)
 
Andre said:
Finally, we now know the cause of global warming
http://www.nunatsiaq.com/news/nunavut/51223_10.html
Here is Simeonie Aqpik describing the shift in the weather, and why the Inuit knew the climate would change. Most of what tells is exactly what the AGW scaremongers love to hear, but wait, he also knows the reason why:
There you go, and we were all thinking that it was the greenhouse gasses. So what does this say about the hype, anecdotal evidence, affirming the consequent fallacy etc, etc,

"There you go"? Are you seriously suggesting that not only is this scientific evidence, but that it also ends the debate?
 
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Andre said:
So what does this say about the hype, anecdotal evidence, affirming the consequent fallacy etc, etc,

What do you call this entire story if not anecdotal evidence?
 
Obviously my lessons in irony have not worked a bit. So there must be :biggrin: :wink: :bugeye: first to recognise what's going on.

I feel it a bit humiliating having to add the obvious: see how anectdotal evidence, selective memory and fantasy of an old man creates a story about warming, which is even taken seriously enough to publish as apparent evidence of global warming. As this seems to be cherished by the scaremongers, that they don't even mind those obvious blatant errors.
 
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