The discussion centers around the relativistic origin of the charge-to-mass ratio in electrons, exploring whether there is a theoretical basis for such a relationship and its implications in physics. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications related to the nature of electrons and their properties.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence or nature of a relationship between the charge-to-mass ratio and relativistic effects. There are competing views regarding the interpretation of the electron's behavior and the validity of classical models.
There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of terms like "angular frequency" and "rotation speed," as well as the implications of using classical models to describe quantum phenomena.
hcl said:Sure but this thread is closed. I did not understand why.
PeterDonis said:Do you think there should be such a relationship? Why or why not? Please give references.
hcl said:Yes, this relationship is very simple :
fH = 4pi (c^2/v^2) e/m
where fH is the angular frequency of the electron in the hydrogen atom, c is the speed of light, v is the rotation speed of the electron in the hydrogen atom (multiplied by 2).
PeterDonis said:What do you mean by "angular frequency"? What measurement does this correspond to?
PeterDonis said:What do you mean by "rotation speed"? You do understand that the electron is not a little billiard ball orbiting the nucleus, right?
PeterDonis said:Which has been known since the early 1920s to be an inaccurate model.