What is the shape of a mass vs. acceleration graph?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between mass and acceleration, particularly in the context of Newton's second law (F=ma) and how to graph these variables. Participants explore the implications of constant mass and varying acceleration, questioning the nature of their relationship.

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  • Participants discuss whether mass should be considered the dependent or independent variable in a mass vs. acceleration graph. There is confusion about the linearity of the relationship, given that mass is constant while acceleration changes. Some participants affirm that a horizontal line is expected in such a graph, while others introduce considerations from relativity that complicate the relationship.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the implications of constant mass and the nature of acceleration as a function of force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the expected graphical representation, but there is also exploration of more complex scenarios involving relativistic effects.

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Participants note that the mass is constant in the scenarios being discussed, which influences their interpretations of the graph. There are also references to the complexities introduced by relativistic physics, suggesting that the discussion may extend beyond classical mechanics.

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The mass is constant, and there is a varying force. So would the mass be the dependent value(y-axis) and the acceleration be the independent value(x-axis)?

I think the mass is the dependent value so when I graphed it the line went straight across(horizontal). Is this right? I'm really confused because I thought acceleration was inversely proportional to mass, so it shouldn't be a linear relationship?
 
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liz777 said:
The mass is constant, and there is a varying force. So would the mass be the dependent value(y-axis) and the acceleration be the independent value(x-axis)?

I think the mass is the dependent value so when I graphed it the line went straight across(horizontal). Is this right? I'm really confused because I thought acceleration was inversely proportional to mass, so it shouldn't be a linear relationship?
You said yourself that the mass is constant. This means that for any point P(a,m) where a is acceleration and m is mass, you have the same y value (m) for any x value (a).

This is why you got a horizontal line when you graphed mass vs. acceleration; mass doesn't actually depend on the acceleration (in this case).
 
so we know F=ma right?
Then, if your mass is constant, then the value of mass doesn't change. Its a number like 7 or 8 or 9. TO graph mass vs acceleration is to say mass on the y-axis and acceleration on the X axis. So I think it should be something like a straight horizontal line like you said. This seems logical because your y-value that is mass stays constant but you acceleration changes, which is your x value. If this is what your graph depicts then it seems right. Cheers
 
Mathemagician said:
You said yourself that the mass is constant. This means that for any point P(a,m) where a is acceleration and m is mass, you have the same y value (m) for any x value (a).

This is why you got a horizontal line when you graphed mass vs. acceleration; mass doesn't actually depend on the acceleration (in this case).
as mass is constant, the acceleration is a function of force only i.e. acc is directly proportional to force applied. depending the magnitude of force the acc will change
 
devrana01 said:
as mass is constant, the acceleration is a function of force only i.e. acc is directly proportional to force applied. depending the magnitude of force the acc will change
The reason I said "in this case" was because in relativity, mass (or maybe more properly, momentum) is not constant with an increase in velocity.

In special relativity, the relation between mass and velocity is M=\frac{m}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}.

Where M is the relativistic mass, and m is the rest mass. v is the velocity of the body, and c is the speed of light.

This obviously shows that M is NOT a constant.
 

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