John Mcclane
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hello sir ...can anyone explain me the value of (U) at infinity with respect to Earth as reference point
The discussion revolves around the significance of gravitational potential energy (U) at infinity in relation to Earth, exploring the conventions used in defining potential energy in gravitational contexts. Participants engage with the theoretical implications and mathematical formulations related to gravitational potential energy, particularly in the context of escape velocity and reference points.
Participants express differing views on the definition and significance of potential energy at infinity, with no consensus reached on the best approach to understanding the concept. Some participants agree on the conventional definition of U at infinity, while others challenge the simplifications presented.
The discussion highlights limitations in understanding potential energy, particularly regarding the assumptions made in using simplified formulas like 'mgh' and the implications of defining reference points for potential energy.
As the other answers implied, that isn't correct. Mgh is as typically used is a simplification for constant g. But for "escape", you'd combine with the equation for gravitational acceleration and integrate over the infinite distance to escape. That's how escape velocity is found and you can find the derivation on its wiki page.siddharth23 said:Potential energy is given by 'mgh' where the 'g' is acceleration due to the Earth's gravity. As soon as you escape the Earth's gravitational field, it stops affecting you. So the value of PE at infinity doesn't really come up.
Ya I realized that. Do I feel silly!russ_watters said:As the other answers implied, that isn't correct. Mgh is as typically used is a simplification for constant g. But for "escape", you'd combine with the equation for gravitational acceleration and integrate over the infinite distance to escape. That's how escape velocity is found and you can find the derivation on its wiki page.
And due to the continuous nature of the gravitational force equation, there is, of course, no distance where the force is exactly zero and Earth's gravity stops affecting you.
As others have pointed out, typically the potential energy is conventionally defined as U = 0 when the distance is infinity, r = ∞. Following this convention, U is negative for values of r < ∞. In other words, most of the time U is negative when an object is near Earth.John Mcclane said:hello sir ...can anyone explain me the value of (U) at infinity with respect to Earth as reference point