What is the Solution for Finding Ball's Speed at Impact and Maximum Height?

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The problem involves a boy tossing a ball straight up from a height of 20 m with an initial speed of 10 m/s. The discussion focuses on calculating the ball's maximum height, its speed as it passes the window on the way down, and its speed upon impact with the ground using energy principles and kinematic equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation and kinematic equations to find the maximum height and speeds at different points. There is a focus on the calculations for the final speed at impact, with some participants questioning the assumptions made regarding initial and final velocities.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and suggested methods for approaching the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the equations and the conditions under which they apply. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, particularly regarding the final speed at impact.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential discrepancies with textbook answers and discuss factors such as air resistance and variations in gravitational acceleration that may affect the results. There is also mention of the need for clarity in the problem statement to avoid misinterpretation.

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Homework Statement


A boy reaches out of a window and tosses a ball straight up with a speed of 10 m/s. The ball is 20 m above the ground as he releases it. Use energy to find:
1)The ball's maximum height above the ground.
2)The ball's speed as it passes the window on its way down.
3)The speed of impact on the ground.

Homework Equations


Etotal= PEi+KEi=PEf+KEf
Vf2-Vi2=2AD
KE=mv2
PE=mgy
hmax= v2/ 2g


The Attempt at a Solution


I solved for the first part and got it right by using the formula for hmax and got 5.1 ,and then added 20 m and got 25.1 meters which is correct.
For the second part I used vf2-vi2=2ad
and I got 10 m which is also correct.
I am having trouble finding the third one; I tried applying vf2 -vi2=2ad using 20 m and 25.1 m and both of them didn't work.
any suggestions.
 
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When you through a body upwards, the body returns back to the point of projection with the velocity which is equal to the velocity of projection.
 
Then if it is the same as the point of projection it would be 10 m/s, and mastering physics is saying that is wrong.
 
If you show us how you went about calculating the last question, we can direct you to the problem.

Using v_{f}^{2}-v_{i}^{2}=2a\Delta y where:
vf=final velocity
vi=initial velocity
a=acceleration due to gravity
\Delta y=height above ground
 
Vf2-vi2=2ad
vf2=2ad
(I set vi=0 since it starting at hmax)
Vf= sqrt( 2*9.8*25.1)=22.2 m/s
 
Yes. I can, with almost certainty, tell you that this IS the correct answer and if the printed answer you are trying to achieve is well off this one you are getting, then you are right and the answer in the book is wrong.
Possibilities of error in your answer could be due to:
1) the question takes air resistance into account
2) gravity is something other than 9.8ms-2
3) Misread/misinterpreted the question.
 

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