What is the Speed of a Pendulum Bob?

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The discussion revolves around a simple pendulum problem where the original poster seeks to determine the speed of a pendulum bob at its lowest point after being released from a specific angle. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, particularly energy conservation and forces acting on pendulums.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore different methods to find the speed, including analyzing forces and applying conservation laws. There are attempts to calculate the height change and speed using various equations, with some questioning the accuracy of height calculations based on the pendulum's angle.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on recalculating height and speed. There is an ongoing exploration of different angles and their effects on the calculations, but no consensus has been reached regarding the final speed value.

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Participants note the importance of accurately determining the change in height and the implications of different angles on the calculations. There is an emphasis on not rounding off calculations prematurely.

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Homework Statement


A simple pendulum consisting of a small heavy bob attached to a light string of length 40cm is released from rest with the string at 60 degrees to the downwards vertical. Find the speed of the pendulum as it passed through its lowest point.

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Don't look for "equations", look for applicable principles. You can try to analyze the forces acting on the pendulum and apply Newton's laws (the hard way) or you can look for a conservation law that applies (the easy way).
 
x = 40/cos60
x = 80*10^-2 m

v = √(2gh)
v = √(2*10*80*10^-2)
v = 4ms^-1

but the answer in the textbook is 2ms^-1
 
looi76 said:
x = 40/cos60
x = 80*10^-2 m
This caculation for the change in height of the bob is incorrect. Draw yourself a diagram showing the initial and final positions of the bob and recalculate the initial height.
 
Thanks Doc Al

x = cos60*40
x = 20*10^-2m

v = √(2gh)
v = √(2*10*20*10^-2)
v = 2ms^-1
 
Very good, but be careful:
looi76 said:
x = cos60*40
x = 20*10^-2m
cos60*40 is the vertical distance below the pivot point. To find the change in height, you must subtract this from the length of the string. Luckily, 40 - 20 = 20. :wink:

(What if the angle was 30 degrees instead of 60?)
 
If the angle was 30 degrees:
x = cos30*40
x = 35

h = 40 - 35
h = 5

v = √(2gh)
v = √(2*10*5*10^-2)
v = 1ms^-1

Right?
 
Excellent!

My only suggestion: Don't round off your calculations until the very last step. (Cos30*40 = 34.64, not 35.)
 
:wink: Ok! Thanks...
 

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