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The discussion revolves around varying weather experiences and personal preferences regarding temperature. Participants express discomfort with extreme heat, particularly temperatures exceeding 70°F, and share anecdotes about weather extremes in their respective regions. Some mention the impact of humidity on perceived temperature, noting that high humidity can make even lower temperatures feel oppressive. There are references to global warming and its potential effects on regional climates, including predictions of increased temperatures and altered precipitation patterns. The conversation highlights a mix of nostalgia for cooler weather and frustration with current heat conditions, with some participants longing for rain to alleviate humidity and discomfort. Overall, the thread captures a diverse range of reactions to weather, emphasizing the challenges posed by both heat and humidity.
  • #31
Right now its a nice cool 79 degrees. If you people think 70's is too hot, your nuts. Anything up to 90 degrees is fine provided that the humidity is low (which is never around here).
 
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  • #32
Global warming said may alter Kansas area

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_sc/no_sunflowers;_ylt=AjSFVkCWhSMHOLU0KZ8RsIQPLBIF
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Imagine the Sunflower State without its sunflowers. That's one of the dire predictions contained in a new report on global warming released by the National Wildlife Federation, which says the Kansas state flower could move north to other states in a few decades.

Increasingly warm temperatures also could mean the end of the state tree, the eastern cottonwood, according to "The Gardener's Guide to Global Warming."

. . . .

While conditions could change, Glick and other say projected increasing temperatures also could wipe out cool-weather grasses, such as Kentucky bluegrass, and many fescues that cover lawns in the region.

Some experts think global warming will cause temperatures in Kansas to rise an average of 5 to 12 degrees in the next several decades.
It seems like more extreme weather in the future.
 
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  • #33
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3926/weatherhv4.jpg

:cry: :cry: :cry:

It is cold and miserable today - and is supposed to be cold and miserable on saturday too :-(

I need some global warming up here.
 
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  • #34
Astronuc said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_sc/no_sunflowers;_ylt=AjSFVkCWhSMHOLU0KZ8RsIQPLBIF
It seems like more extreme weather in the future.
Summers in Kansas have been cooler each year for the last several years, this year has been the coldest so far, with record or near record lows . What data are these people using?
 
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  • #35
Evo said:
Summers in Kansas have been cooler each year for the last several years, this year has been the coldest so far, with record or near record lows . What data are these people using?

I don't know that it is necessarily based on temperature - but rather it is related to precipitation.
John Blair, a Kansas State University professor and research scientist at the Konza Prairie research station north of Manhattan, has been conducting experiments for nine years on the effect of altered rain patterns on plants.

Blair said even if total rainfall doesn't change, computer models show the rain will come less often and will fall in strong downpours when it does come.
I believe the center of the country, particularly Nebraska, the Dakotas, and E. Montana have been receiving less rain.

However,
Heavy rains through the last half of March have put an end to drought conditions across all of Central, South Central and Southeast Kansas. As a result, this will be the last update until D2 drought conditions return to the area.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/?n=drought (May 19.)


But I wonder what the temperatures will be like over the next decade.

There was the heat wave last year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_American_heat_wave

Then there is anecdotal stuff like:
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/scripts/viewstory.php?STORY_NUMBER=2006061520
WICHITA EXPERIENCES WARMEST SPRING IN 117 YEAR CLIMATE RECORD (6/15/2006)
By: Eric Schminke

AS FAR AS WICHITA IS CONCERNED...SPRING 2006 SOARED TO THE TOP OF THE RECORD BOOKS IN TERMS OF WARMEST AVERAGE TEMPERATURE.


DURING THE 3-MONTH PERIOD OF MARCH...APRIL...AND MAY...THE AVERAGE
TEMPERATURE AT MID CONTINENT AIRPORT WAS AN EVEN 60.0 DEGREES. THIS SETS AN
ALL TIME RECORD FOR WARMEST SPRING SINCE CLIMATE RECORDS COMMENCED ON
JULY 1ST 1888. THE PREVIOUS SPRING RECORD WAS 59.7 DEGREES SET IN
1977. THE 60.0 DEGREE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS 4.6 DEGREES ABOVE THE
NORMAL OF 55.4 DEGREES FOR THIS 3-MONTH PERIOD.
or
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/newsletter/Fall2005.php
Summer Climate Summary

Somewhere, like the NCDC at NOAA, there is a temperature record, but finding or accessing it seems to be a challenge.

I found this, but it only gives temperature records for a given day, and not a continuous (with time) dataset.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/climate/viewrecords.php

Here is some record temperatures near Wichita for July.
Date
July Record High/Record Low/Coolest High/Warmest Low
1 . 109 in 1980 . 58 in 1995 . 71 in 1988 . 78 in 1956
2 . 108 in 1990 . 54 in 1959 . 71 in 1915 . 80 in 1980
3 . 108 in 1990 . 53 in 1924 . 73 in 1892 . 80 in 1897
4 . 110 in 1980 . 53 in 1892 . 72 in 1915 . 80 in 1969
5 . 106 in 1980 . 51 in 1972 . 69 in 1967 . 82 in 1953
6 . 107 in 1980 . 55 in 1972 . 71 in 1904 . 79 in 1966
7 . 106 in 1980 . 55 in 1908 . 68 in 1894 . 80 in 1980
8 . 108 in 1980 . 55 in 1952 . 70 in 1896 . 82 in 1980
9 . 110 in 1980 . 55 in 1905 . 71 in 1905 . 83 in 1980
10 . 110 in 1980 . 53 in 1905 . 64 in 1895 . 81 in 1980
11 . 111 in 1980 . 55 in 1905 . 69 in 1996 . 81 in 1954
12 . 112 in 1980 . 56 in 1975 . 70 in 1953 . 80 in 1980
13 . 111 in 1954 . 51 in 1975 . 72 in 1951 . 80 in 1934
14 . 113 in 1954 . 52 in 1990 . 74 in 1973 . 81 in 1980
15 . 110 in 1936 . 55 in 1990 . 74 in 1891 . 83 in 1936
16 . 110 in 1980 . 57 in 1906 . 66 in 1967 . 82 in 1980
17 . 110 in 1980 . 57 in 1900 . 75 in 1911 . 82 in 1936
18 . 112 in 1936 . 59 in 1911 . 71 in 1967 . 82 in 1936
19 . 109 in 2006 . 61 in 1947 . 76 in 1911 . 82 in 1936
20 . 109 in 2006 . 55 in 1971 . 70 in 1970 . 81 in 1978
21 . 107 in 1974 . 53 in 1900 . 71 in 1950 . 83 in 1954
22 . 107 in 2001 . 53 in 1970 . 74 in 1961 . 80 in 1934
23 . 109 in 1936 . 55 in 1970 . 66 in 1947 . 79 in 2001
24 . 109 in 1981 . 58 in 1911 . 67 in 1947 . 80 in 2001
25 . 105 in 1964 . 58 in 1890 . 74 in 1904 . 83 in 1934
26 . 105 in 2006 . 57 in 2004 . 75 in 1996 . 79 in 1936
27 . 106 in 1986 . 58 in 2005 . 77 in 1911 . 80 in 1936
28 . 105 in 1980 . 56 in 2005 . 73 in 2004 . 79 in 1935
29 . 109 in 1978 . 55 in 1971 . 69 in 1971 . 80 in 1940
30 . 110 in 1986 . 54 in 1971 . 73 in 1903 . 78 in 1980
31 . 109 in 1934 . 53 in 1971 . 74 in 1962 . 79 in 1980
 
  • #36
Astronuc said:
I don't know that it is necessarily based on temperature - but rather it is related to precipitation.
I believe the center of the country, particularly Nebraska, the Dakotas, and E. Montana have been receiving less rain.

However, http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/?n=drought (May 19.)


But I wonder what the temperatures will be like over the next decade.

There was the heat wave last year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_American_heat_wave

Then there is anecdotal stuff like:
or
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/newsletter/Fall2005.php
Summer Climate Summary

Somewhere, like the NCDC at NOAA, there is a temperature record, but finding or accessing it seems to be a challenge.

I found this, but it only gives temperature records for a given day, and not a continuous (with time) dataset.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/climate/viewrecords.php

Here is some record temperatures near Wichita for July.
Date
July Record High/Record Low/Coolest High/Warmest Low
1 . 109 in 1980 . 58 in 1995 . 71 in 1988 . 78 in 1956
2 . 108 in 1990 . 54 in 1959 . 71 in 1915 . 80 in 1980
3 . 108 in 1990 . 53 in 1924 . 73 in 1892 . 80 in 1897
4 . 110 in 1980 . 53 in 1892 . 72 in 1915 . 80 in 1969
5 . 106 in 1980 . 51 in 1972 . 69 in 1967 . 82 in 1953
6 . 107 in 1980 . 55 in 1972 . 71 in 1904 . 79 in 1966
7 . 106 in 1980 . 55 in 1908 . 68 in 1894 . 80 in 1980
8 . 108 in 1980 . 55 in 1952 . 70 in 1896 . 82 in 1980
9 . 110 in 1980 . 55 in 1905 . 71 in 1905 . 83 in 1980
10 . 110 in 1980 . 53 in 1905 . 64 in 1895 . 81 in 1980
11 . 111 in 1980 . 55 in 1905 . 69 in 1996 . 81 in 1954
12 . 112 in 1980 . 56 in 1975 . 70 in 1953 . 80 in 1980
13 . 111 in 1954 . 51 in 1975 . 72 in 1951 . 80 in 1934
14 . 113 in 1954 . 52 in 1990 . 74 in 1973 . 81 in 1980
15 . 110 in 1936 . 55 in 1990 . 74 in 1891 . 83 in 1936
16 . 110 in 1980 . 57 in 1906 . 66 in 1967 . 82 in 1980
17 . 110 in 1980 . 57 in 1900 . 75 in 1911 . 82 in 1936
18 . 112 in 1936 . 59 in 1911 . 71 in 1967 . 82 in 1936
19 . 109 in 2006 . 61 in 1947 . 76 in 1911 . 82 in 1936
20 . 109 in 2006 . 55 in 1971 . 70 in 1970 . 81 in 1978
21 . 107 in 1974 . 53 in 1900 . 71 in 1950 . 83 in 1954
22 . 107 in 2001 . 53 in 1970 . 74 in 1961 . 80 in 1934
23 . 109 in 1936 . 55 in 1970 . 66 in 1947 . 79 in 2001
24 . 109 in 1981 . 58 in 1911 . 67 in 1947 . 80 in 2001
25 . 105 in 1964 . 58 in 1890 . 74 in 1904 . 83 in 1934
26 . 105 in 2006 . 57 in 2004 . 75 in 1996 . 79 in 1936
27 . 106 in 1986 . 58 in 2005 . 77 in 1911 . 80 in 1936
28 . 105 in 1980 . 56 in 2005 . 73 in 2004 . 79 in 1935
29 . 109 in 1978 . 55 in 1971 . 69 in 1971 . 80 in 1940
30 . 110 in 1986 . 54 in 1971 . 73 in 1903 . 78 in 1980
31 . 109 in 1934 . 53 in 1971 . 74 in 1962 . 79 in 1980
Looks like Wichita had a heat wave in 1980.

Here in Kansas City, we had a week of temperatures over 100 a few years ago, but since then the summers have been cooling. I count that by the number of days I have to run the air conditioner and my electric bill. Both have been decreasing the past few years.

Also Global Warming is no more. Due to all of the miscalculations and wrong predictions, it's now just called "Climate Change".

It appears that "Global Warming" has been replaced with just "Climate Change", global has been omitted, at least by the EPA.

"EPA's Climate Change Site replaces EPA's Global Warming Site"

http://epa.gov/climatechange/

They are now taking a more realistic approach.

"Because climate is uncontrollable (albeit influenceable by humans), the models are the only available experimental laboratory for climate. They also are the appropriate high-end tool for forecasting hypothetical climates in the years and centuries ahead. However, climate models are imperfect. Their simulation skill is limited by uncertainties in their formulation, the limited size of their calculations, and the difficulty of interpreting their answers that exhibit almost as much complexity as in nature."

The more realistic tone, the re-focusing on pollution and impacts on regional climate changes are a definite move in the right direction."
 
  • #37
Here are similar data for Aug in Wichita. Still a lot of records from 1936 when there was a significant heat wave in the midwest. I suppose people are wondering if it will happen again.

Aug Record High/Record Low/Coolest High/Warmest Low
1 . 110 in 1980 . 56 in 1893 . 71 in 1995 . 80 in 2006
2 . 106 in 1970 . 58 in 1927 . 74 in 1921 . 82 in 1980
3 . 108 in 1964 . 53 in 1974 . 74 in 1978 . 80 in 1964
4 . 105 in 1930 . 51 in 1974 . 73 in 1901 . 81 in 1934
5 . 106 in 1956 . 55 in 1894 . 70 in 1993 . 84 in 1956
6 . 110 in 1964 . 57 in 1894 . 68 in 1948 . 81 in 1970
7 . 109 in 1946 . 56 in 1921 . 75 in 1929 . 83 in 1937
8 . 107 in 1946 . 51 in 1989 . 73 in 1888 . 84 in 1946
9 . 111 in 1936 . 55 in 1989 . 71 in 1915 . 81 in 1936
10 . 110 in 1936 . 58 in 1968 . 70 in 1902 . 81 in 1936
11 . 112 in 1936 . 52 in 1967 . 66 in 1968 . 82 in 1934
12 . 114 in 1936 . 50 in 1967 . 72 in 1941 . 84 in 1934
13 . 110 in 1936 . 52 in 1967 . 69 in 1989 . 85 in 1936
14 . 110 in 1936 . 56 in 2004 . 68 in 2005 . 84 in 1936
15 . 107 in 1956 . 55 in 1994 . 73 in 2005 . 82 in 1936
16 . 106 in 1983 . 56 in 1992 . 76 in 1964 . 84 in 1936
17 . 106 in 1956 . 57 in 1992 . 73 in 1888 . 83 in 1956
18 . 106 in 1970 . 54 in 1943 . 72 in 1963 . 82 in 1936
19 . 105 in 1936 . 50 in 1950 . 71 in 1956 . 84 in 1936
20 . 106 in 1896 . 47 in 1950 . 65 in 1950 . 82 in 1936
21 . 105 in 1896 . 48 in 1956 . 74 in 1951 . 82 in 1936
22 . 105 in 1922 . 56 in 1961 . 69 in 1961 . 79 in 2001
23 . 105 in 1943 . 48 in 1891 . 69 in 1911 . 79 in 1936
24 . 104 in 2000 . 47 in 1891 . 71 in 1987 . 79 in 1936
25 . 105 in 2000 . 54 in 1910 . 69 in 1964 . 81 in 1936
26 . 108 in 2000 . 48 in 1910 . 67 in 1992 . 80 in 1936
27 . 108 in 2000 . 48 in 1967 . 71 in 1987 . 80 in 1936
28 . 107 in 1984 . 53 in 1986 . 68 in 1917 . 76 in 1932
29 . 110 in 1984 . 45 in 1893 . 66 in 1968 . 76 in 1951
30 . 105 in 1939 . 46 in 1915 . 69 in 1915 . 77 in 1943
31 . 107 in 1990 . 52 in 1955 . 70 in 2003 . 78 in 1980

"The more realistic tone, the re-focusing on pollution and impacts on regional climate changes are a definite move in the right direction."
Agreed.

We've been experiencing normal weather punctuated by record warm days, and unusually cool/cold days. Weather is fickle. :rolleyes:
 
  • #38
http://www.twilightus.net/adam/images/weather.png
or for some people...
http://www.twilightus.net/adam/images/weatherC.png

I guess summer is starting.

EDIT: I also kinda wonder when the last time it rained was...
 
  • #39
Low of 82 :smile: How bad is it there Moose, does one get used to the heat?
 
  • #40
mattmns said:
Low of 82 :smile: How bad is it there Moose, does one get used to the heat?

Depends what you mean by that. When I go outside in 110 degree weather, it's still hot as hell. Getting into a car is even worse. People just don't go outside that much...
 
  • #41
Circles, I'd kill for your temperature right now. It's constantly around 35°C these days. I'm boiling.
 
  • #42
How about 100 degree weather, is that reasonable compared to 110, or still really hot?
 
  • #43
mattmns said:
How about 100 degree weather, is that reasonable compared to 110, or still really hot?
Anything over 70F is too hot for me. We had a remarkable almost 260 days without ever reaching 90F degrees, we've had record cool weather, and it's been so nice. It's just started to warm up. :frown:
 
  • #44
mattmns said:
How about 100 degree weather, is that reasonable compared to 110, or still really hot?

There's actually quite a difference. At 100 you think it's really hot. At 110 or even more so at 115, you feel like you're burning a bit more.
 
  • #45
moose said:
http://www.twilightus.net/adam/images/weather.png
or for some people...
http://www.twilightus.net/adam/images/weatherC.png

I guess summer is starting.

EDIT: I also kinda wonder when the last time it rained was...
No wonder you're breathing fire. :bugeye:
 
  • #46
radou said:
Circles, I'd kill for your temperature right now. It's constantly around 35°C these days. I'm boiling.

Can I swap with you please? I'm getting very sick of rain, rain, rain all the time! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6239828.stm
 
  • #47
  • #48
It was really hot and humid today. It rained once, but its still very humid. I wouldn't be surprised if it rains again.

Right now its:

Observed at: Washington, District of Columbia
Elevation: 13 ft / 4 m

93 °F / 34 °C
Scattered Clouds

Humidity: 42%
Dew Point: 67 °F / 19 °C
Wind: 7 mph / 11 km/h / 3.1 m/s from the South
Pressure: 30.18 in / 1022 hPa (Steady)
Heat Index: 96 °F / 36 °C
Visibility: 10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers
UV: 2 out of 16
Clouds: Few 7000 ft / 2133 m
Scattered Clouds 15000 ft / 4572 m
Scattered Clouds 25000 ft / 7620 m
(Above Ground Level)

Observed at: College Park, Maryland
Elevation: 49 ft / 15 m

90 °F / 32 °C
Clear
Humidity: 62%
Dew Point: 75 °F / 24 °C
Wind: 4 mph / 6 km/h / 1.5 m/s from the East
Pressure: 30.17 in / 1022 hPa (Falling)
Heat Index: 100 °F / 38 °C
Visibility: 10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers
UV: 3 out of 16
Clouds: Clear -
(Above Ground


 
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  • #49
cyrusabdollahi said:
It was really hot and humid today. It rained once, but its still very humid. I wouldn't be surprised if it rains again.

That's what I hate most. When the rain doesn't bring any refreshment at all. It just gets worse.
 
  • #50
Evo said:
Anything over 70F is too hot for me. We had a remarkable almost 260 days without ever reaching 90F degrees, we've had record cool weather, and it's been so nice. It's just started to warm up. :frown:

I don't think our house temperature has been below 70 in the past month or two! I was just outside (eating a piece of watermelon in the backyard :smile:) and it is supposedly 97 degrees out, but it seemed quite comfortable.
 
  • #51
I'm melting! Someone tosss me a ice cube ..asap!
 
  • #52
moose said:
http://www.twilightus.net/adam/images/weather.png
or for some people...
http://www.twilightus.net/adam/images/weatherC.png

I guess summer is starting.

EDIT: I also kinda wonder when the last time it rained was...

I was going to post the temperature where I live... and be like... "oh yeah, check out how hot it is here". And then I saw this post, and realized we live in the same place :smile:

Yeah. It's hot right now!
 
  • #53
Its not the hot that's the problem, its the humidity. You can't breathe.
 
  • #54
cyrusabdollahi said:
Its not the hot that's the problem, its the humidity. You can't breathe.
yep, I've been in Las Vegas with 115F heat and it didn't feel as hot as a 90F day in Houston with almost 100% humidity. Can humidity get that high? Sure felt like it.
 
  • #55
That could be why it does not feel hot here, we currently have 7% humidity.

edit... That looks a little low, and it is; it seems that usually the humidity is in the 20s and 30s.
 
  • #56
Evo said:
yep, I've been in Las Vegas with 115F heat and it didn't feel as hot as a 90F day in Houston with almost 100% humidity. Can humidity get that high? Sure felt like it.
Humidity probably can approach 100%. I worked on several construction sites during summers in Houston, and one summer at the ARCO refinery. It was 95+ and high humidity. The iron was about 130-135°F (54-57°C) such that an egg would slowly cook. My weight would fluctuate about 2 kg (~4 lbs) from water loss and heavy work. Sweat would trickle like stream, and we'd drink about a gallon or so of water/gatorade. I sometimes miss those days.

At the ARCO refinery, I unloaded trailers and boxcars of containers and empty oil drums - that was hot!


Yesterday it was in the 90's locally, and we had a smog/ozone ( we get some drifting up from NJ and the NY metropolitan area, as well as local interstates and major roadways). The humidity was about 60%. The air smelled bad and the local traffic didn't help. But I went running anyway.

My run was interrupted when I came across a brassiere and woman's shirt on the side of the road. I could also smell something rather foul, so I looked around but didn't see anything. A passing motorist probably called the sherriff's department, because a few minutes later, a sherriff's vehicle came by. He'll look into it. Hopefully whoever was wearing those clothes is alright, and it was nothing but a moment of passion or silliness.
 
  • #57
Humidity, smog, power failures...Its messed up NYC. I took me 2 hrs to get home yesterday because power failures affected the subway system. This combined with an over crowded train car and the smell of fish and no deodorant...these damn people should know their limits and
 
  • #58
I haven't seen the Sun for nearly two weeks. And as I type, it's raining outside, with a cool breeze blowing through the window.
 
  • #59
It hasn't rained in June, and I doubt that it rained in May...
 
  • #60
It's been very nasty/hot/humid here lately, with highs in the mid-90s. Step outside and if feels like someone had slapped you in the face with a hot wet towel. Central Maine usually doesn't get this kind of weather in June - it's usually late July or August before this crap shows up.
 

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