What is the theory of a raindrop?

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The discussion centers around the factors influencing the size and behavior of raindrops, exploring theoretical aspects of raindrop formation, evaporation, and environmental conditions affecting their development. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and technical explanations related to meteorological phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the size of raindrops increases due to smaller drops merging, while others consider evaporation and air resistance as significant factors.
  • One participant suggests that maximum raindrop size is limited by the time available for formation, implying that larger drops will fall before they can grow significantly unless supported by updrafts.
  • A technical scenario is presented where a raindrop falling through fog collects moisture and accelerates downward, with a constant acceleration less than gravitational acceleration, assuming neglect of evaporation and air drag.
  • Questions arise regarding the neglect of evaporation, with some participants arguing that in high humidity conditions, evaporation is minimal compared to the collection of moisture.
  • Virga is mentioned as a phenomenon where raindrops evaporate before reaching the ground, with clarification that this can occur outside desert environments.
  • Participants inquire about additional factors influencing raindrop behavior, such as temperature changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the factors influencing raindrop size and behavior, with no consensus reached on the relative importance of evaporation, air resistance, and environmental conditions.

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Limitations include assumptions about neglecting evaporation and air drag in certain scenarios, as well as the dependence on humidity levels and environmental conditions for the behavior of raindrops.

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What is the theory of a raindrop?

What kind of effects influence its size?
I think that the size is increasing due to the smaller drops (spray)
But what about evaporation, because the drop has large velocity
 
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As to size, I'd think that the primary deciding factors are surface tension vs. external stresses such as g force and air resistance.
 


I would have thought the maximum size was set by the time it had to form.
Bigger than a certain size it's going to fall, unless there is an up draught to hold it then it's going to fall as rain before it has time to grow
 


If a raindrop falls through a uniform density fog, collecting the mist and increasing its size (collecting mass from the region it traverses and neglecting evaporation and air drag) from rest at zero radius as it falls, it will fall with a constant downward acceleration less than g. (Related to problem 8-22 in Becker "Introduction to Theoretical Mechanics."

Bob S
 


Why can we neglect evaporation?
 


mersecske said:
Why can we neglect evaporation?

Because in humid air, it collects much more water than it evaporates.

If there is more evaporation, then it's certainly not raining.
 


Virga is a type of rain shower over very low humidity desert areas where the raindrops completely evaporate before hitting the ground.

Bob S
 


Thanks, so both effects are important. Are there any other effects? For example temperature changing?
 
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Bob S said:
Virga is a type of rain shower over very low humidity desert areas where the raindrops completely evaporate before hitting the ground.

Bob S

Just to clarify, it doesn't have to be a desert. Such occurs here in Alberta on a regular basis.
 

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