What is the Value of x² + y² + z² Given These Equations?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving three variables x, y, and z, defined by the equations x+y+z=0, x^3+y^3+z^3=3, and x^5+y^5+z^5=15. Participants are tasked with finding the value of x^2+y^2+z^2, emphasizing the need for a justified solution rather than a mere guess. Some contributors suggest that the problem can be solved using tools like Wolfram Alpha, while others express difficulty in finding the individual values of x, y, and z despite arriving at the correct answer for x^2+y^2+z^2. The conversation hints at the potential for clever shortcuts to simplify the problem, with one participant noting that the solution may be simpler than it initially appears.
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A friend of mine showed this to me a few days ago:

x+y+z=0
x3+y3+z3=3
x5+y5+z5=15

x2+y2+z2=?

An answer must be supported with justification (so that I know that you didn't guess and get lucky).
 
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I'm going to ask my math teacher :)
 
ƒ(x) said:
A friend of mine showed this to me a few days ago:

x+y+z=0
x3+y3+z3=3
x5+y5+z5=15

x2+y2+z2=?

An answer must be supported with justification (so that I know that you didn't guess and get lucky).


Unless you can demonstrate that there is a clever shortcut to this problem which would raise it to the level of a brainteaser, this is just a set of simultaneous equations which is easily solvable with, for example, the Wolfram Alpha website.
 
regor60 said:
Unless you can demonstrate that there is a clever shortcut to this problem which would raise it to the level of a brainteaser, this is just a set of simultaneous equations which is easily solvable with, for example, the Wolfram Alpha website.

I had no idea that such a site even existed.
 
How do they solve it ?
 
I got the answer but i cant´t get the values os x, y and z, but i got that x.y.z =
x.y.z=1
 
Ok...that was prety hard to solve...it took many hours. I hope you have an easier way to get the answer (tricky):
x= 2 cos (20)
y= 2 cos (140)
z= 2 cos (260)
the answer to the question is 6
 
At a glance:

x = -y-z
x<2 and positive
y not equal z
y and z are negative
x.y.z = 1
 
OK, I got it...it´s really simple to get the answer to x2+y2+z2=?...
the answer is 6. and you just have to set values to x (positive) y(negative) and z(negative) and calcutale the proportion like: set x=3 y=-2 z=-1, then
^2 = 14 --> ?
^3 = 18 --> 3
^5 = 210 --> 15

so 14 . 18 . 15 = ? . 3 . 210
? = 6

That´s the tricky way...
 
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