What Is the Work Done by the Spring When Extended by an External Force?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving an ideal spring that is extended by an external force when a mass is hung from it. The scenario includes calculating the work done by the spring during this extension, with specific details about the mass and the distances involved.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law to find the force and considers using Hooke's law to determine the spring constant. There is uncertainty about how to calculate the work done by the spring and whether to combine the extension distances for potential energy calculations.

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Participants are exploring the relationship between work and energy, with some suggesting that the work done by the spring relates to changes in elastic potential energy. There are also questions about the conditions under which work may not equal energy, indicating a broader exploration of the concepts involved.

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The original poster expresses confusion about the calculations and the relationships between force, spring constant, and potential energy, highlighting a need for clarification on these concepts.

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g'day, any chance of some help with this spring question... can't seem to get my head around it.

an ideal spring is hung vertically from the ceiling. when a 2kg mass hangs at rest from the spring it extends by 6cm. a downward external force is now applied to the mass to extend the spring an additional 10cm. while the spring is being extended by the force what is the work done by the spring?

i think the original force is simply calculated form F=ma... right?

but do i then find the springs constant from F=kx ?

and add the extension distances together for U=(1/2)kx^2 ??

not to sure...

thanks in advance :smile:
 
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In a lot of cases (nearly all...), work = energy.
 
The work done on the spring equals the increase in its elastic potential energy. So obviously the work done by the spring (in this case on everything external to the spring, which is the mass + the external agent that exerts the additional force on the mass) equals the decrease in its elastic potential energy.
 
moose said:
In a lot of cases (nearly all...), work = energy.

In which cases does work [itex]\neq[/itex] energy?

~H
 
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