To find the work done in extending a spring

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done in extending a spring, with references to relevant formulas and concepts such as the Modulus of Elasticity and the relationship between force and extension.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between force, extension, and work done, with one participant attempting to derive a formula based on given values and another suggesting a more straightforward approach using known equations.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the correct application of formulas and the reasoning behind the calculations. Some participants provide alternative methods for calculating work done, indicating a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus is reached on the final interpretation.

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There is mention of a discrepancy between the participant's calculations and a book answer, suggesting potential misunderstandings or assumptions that may need further exploration.

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Homework Statement
To find the work done in extending a spring
Relevant Equations
W.D. = F * d
Hi,

Could I please ask where I am going wrong with this very simple question:

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Here's my answer (units implied):

A force of 20 extends the spring by 1/100 and so the Work Done in performing this extension is 20 * 1/100 = 1/ 5

Now, the work done in extending a spring is given by the formula W.D. = (Y * x^2) / (2a) where 'Y' is the Modulus Of Elasticity of the spring, 'x' the Extension and 'a' the Natural Length of the spirng.

So we have 1/5 = (Y * 1/10000) / (2a) and so from this we have:

Y/(2a) = 2000

Now, using the same formula, the work done in extending the spring by b is:

(Y * b^2) / (2a) and substituting for Y/(2a) from the previous formula gives:

W.D. = 2000 * b^2 = 2x10^3 * b^2 which is twice the book answer of 1x10^3 * b^2

Thanks for any help,
Mitch.
 
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Let me see
F/A =Y x/l ==>x is elongation
So F= kx
Now work
dW = F .dx
dW = kx .dx
Integrating both we get,
W=1/2(kx^2)Hope that helps.
 
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gnits said:
Homework Statement:: To find the work done in extending a spring
Homework Equations:: W.D. = F * d

Hi,

Could I please ask where I am going wrong with this very simple question:

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Here's my answer (units implied):

A force of 20 extends the spring by 1/100 and so the Work Done in performing this extension is 20 * 1/100 = 1/ 5

Now, the work done in extending a spring is given by the formula W.D. = (Y * x^2) / (2a) where 'Y' is the Modulus Of Elasticity of the spring, 'x' the Extension and 'a' the Natural Length of the spirng.

So we have 1/5 = (Y * 1/10000) / (2a) and so from this we have:

Y/(2a) = 2000

Now, using the same formula, the work done in extending the spring by b is:

(Y * b^2) / (2a) and substituting for Y/(2a) from the previous formula gives:

W.D. = 2000 * b^2 = 2x10^3 * b^2 which is twice the book answer of 1x10^3 * b^2

Thanks for any help,
Mitch.

Why not simply use ##F = kx## and ##W = \frac 1 2 k x^2##?
 
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Thanks all for your help, I see it now. Thanks, Mitch.
 

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