What is this type of bulb or lamp?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying a specific type of bulb or lamp, particularly one with an E27 base that is believed to generate ozone. Participants explore its characteristics, usage, and potential applications, including its operation with high voltage and its relation to ultraviolet light.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a video of the lamp in operation, noting it is powered by high voltage with a single cable and suggesting it functions similarly to a plasma ball lamp.
  • Another participant questions the compatibility of high voltage with the E27 socket and expresses confusion about the necessity of the lamp if its purpose is unknown.
  • A different participant suggests that the lamp is not typically designed for high voltage or ozone production and seeks clarification on its standard use.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of ozone production within a leakproof bulb, with one participant noting that high voltage sparks can generate ozone but questioning its practical value in that context.
  • One participant provides a detailed explanation of ultraviolet lamps and their potential to generate ozone, referencing recent developments in UV-C technology and the associated risks.
  • Another participant identifies the lamp as an ultraviolet lamp that generates ozone from ambient oxygen, suggesting its intended use for disinfection.
  • There is skepticism regarding the original poster's lack of knowledge about the lamp despite similarities to images found online.
  • One participant speculates that the lamp might be a UV aquarium sterilizer based on its appearance.
  • A technical explanation is provided regarding the operation of the lamp, describing the role of high voltage and the electric field in generating UV light and ozone.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the lamp's purpose and functionality, with no consensus reached on its identification or typical use. Some propose it is an ultraviolet lamp for disinfection, while others question the practicality of ozone generation in a sealed bulb.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the lamp's design and intended use, highlighting the need for further clarification on its operation and the implications of high voltage usage.

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I need to know what is this type of lamp and a datasheet.
Hi there!

I have few years still without any solution.

I could find just only one exemplary of this bulb or lamp there I share pictures, this is exactly what I need to know what it is, brand or datasheet.

The base is E27.

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AND the most important, In this VIDEO you can see the lamp working: (I don't know is this usage is the correct usage, the lamp is powered with HV with only a single cable, it runs like a Plasma ball lamp) - Aparenlty these lamps are used to generate ozone.


Hope you can help me! I have YEARS with this issue... I never could resolve it...

Kindly Regards ;D
 
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Axxel said:
the lamp is powered with HV with only a single cable
By HV, do you mean High Voltage? How is that to be reconciled with the E27 socket?I'm a bit puzzled. If you don't know what it is, how do you know you need it?
 
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This is the lamp the same with not the E27 base. I think the E27 base can be useful to find something more "standart". I think this type of lamp is not designed to work with HV and making ozone, and this is the information I need, what is this type of lamp NORMALLY and what it is used for?
 
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Somehow "ozone production" doesn't add with electrodes encased in a leakproof bulb. Yes, high voltage sparks produce the ozone, but what is it worth if it is only inside?
 
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Borek said:
Somehow "ozone production" doesn't add with electrodes encased in a leakproof bulb.
Actually, short wavelength UV bulbs can potentially produce enough ozone in the surrounding air to be hazardous:

Ozone Generation by Ultraviolet Lamps​

Holger Claus

Abstract​

The COVID-19 pandemic has generated a great deal of interest in ultraviolet germicidal irradiation (UVGI) as an important means to disinfect air and surfaces. The traditional lamp employed for UVGI has been the low-pressure mercury-discharge lamp that emits primarily at 254 nm in the ultraviolet photobiological band UV-C (100-280 nm). The recent development of even shorter-wavelength UV-C lamps, such as the Krypton-Chloride, 222-nm lamp, has led to greater concerns about the UV-C generation of ozone. It is well known that wavelengths below 240 nm more readily generate ozone. However, there is a great misunderstanding with regard to the actual generation and dissipation of ozone molecules by UV-C lamps. A review of this subject is much warranted. An overview of the ozone generation of various UV-C light sources is presented to give users a better understanding of risk and how to assure control of ozone when employing UV-C lamps.

10.1111/php.13391
 
The first image and the image in Post#3 appear to be the same lamp, so the search path below was followed.

The post#3 image has "BIPROAM" on the lamp, suggesting this search:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=biproam

The fourth image of that Google search matches post#3 and leads to:
https://www.todoelectronica.com/lampara-ozono-100mm-resina-cable-silicona-p-89936.html

Google can not translate that page directly, but you can copy-paste the page text to Google translate to get something readable.

the lamp is:
a) an ultraviolet lamp
b) the UV generates Ozone from the Oxygen in the air
c) intended use is for disinfecting

I spotted 'Neon' and '28nM' somewhere on the site.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
The fourth image of that Google search matches post#3 and leads to:
It matches the image in post #3 EXACTLY. I smell a rat: if @Axxel has the same picture as on a web page how do they not know what the bulb is from the web page?
 
At first, I thought it might be a uv aquarium sterilizer.
 
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A low-pressure mercury vapour discharge inside the tube would generate UV, which in turn, generates ozone in the air outside the envelope.

The tube seems to have only one high voltage connection to the internal element. An electric field would need to pass through the capacitance of the envelope to the external "ground". I would expect the tube to be driven by high frequency AC, from a high voltage generator. Discharge current would be regulated by the capacitance of the glass envelope, the voltage and the frequency of excitation.
 
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