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What is your favorite Star Trek series
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I grew up on TOS and like Dr Who defended it against morons who didn't get that it took place on many levels. "You want Monstahs? We got Monstahs!" but if you pay attention the real plot is underneath, subversive and ...well.... fascinating. That said the fact remains that as a network television show that was actually cancelled for a time for low confidence in return on investment, it wasn't until the groundswell of popular support changed all that and Gene Roddenberry got as close to a Blank Check as any TV producer can get which gave him the freedom to stop so much pandering and get serious with TNG. Enterprise and especially Deep Space Nine and Voyager were quantum leaps in entropy falling back largely to pandering again but I watched them pretty faithfully anyway but then I'm not immune to Testosterone and Oxytocin. ;)
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Could someone point me to the episode of DS9 where Q appeared? I remember watching DS9 from the beginning, but I don't have a clear recollection of Q appearing.
I do recall Q appearing in the 3 episodes of Voyager (btw I have read somewhere that Kate Mulgrew and John de Lancie are good friends in real life).
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As for myself, I grew up watching TNG so naturally that show was my favourite, although I greatly enjoyed watching the Star Trek films. I should note that I first started watching seriously TOS after I started watching TNG, as well as after seeing the first three films of the Star Trek films.
As for the characters on the Star Trek series, while on the one hand I greatly liked Spock (and really enjoyed the camaraderie between Spoke, Kirk and McCoy), my favourite Star Trek characters were Captain Picard and Data. Also found Q to be a greatly entertaining character too!
As for DS9, I wasn't too fond of the show at the beginning, but it grew on me, and especially enjoyed how the show changed once the nature of the threat of the Dominion came to the fore, and always enjoyed the episodes where Quark and Odo came to the fore.
Voyager was kind of hit-and-miss -- some episodes were entertaining while others were just so-so. I felt that the show improved once Seven of Nine entered the series.
I tried watching episodes of Enterprise, and ended up hating that show, with bad writing and poor acting from Jolene Blalock (as Vulcan T'Pol) and especially Connor Trinneer (as Commander Trip Tucker, who I found irredeemably irritating) just ruining it for me.
As for the characters on the Star Trek series, while on the one hand I greatly liked Spock (and really enjoyed the camaraderie between Spoke, Kirk and McCoy), my favourite Star Trek characters were Captain Picard and Data. Also found Q to be a greatly entertaining character too!
As for DS9, I wasn't too fond of the show at the beginning, but it grew on me, and especially enjoyed how the show changed once the nature of the threat of the Dominion came to the fore, and always enjoyed the episodes where Quark and Odo came to the fore.
Voyager was kind of hit-and-miss -- some episodes were entertaining while others were just so-so. I felt that the show improved once Seven of Nine entered the series.
I tried watching episodes of Enterprise, and ended up hating that show, with bad writing and poor acting from Jolene Blalock (as Vulcan T'Pol) and especially Connor Trinneer (as Commander Trip Tucker, who I found irredeemably irritating) just ruining it for me.
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Thanks for the link. This must have been the one episode of DS9 that I don't recall seeing (not sure why).
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Strange. Me neither.
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TNG for me, however I really like TOS as well. Voyager was okay, but I didn't like DS9 or Enterprise at all.
I hate the new movies. The reason I like Star Trek is the sense of action/adventure. This iteration is just action, but completely lacking in adventure. It boldly goes where we've seen The Federation go before... booooring.
I hate the new movies. The reason I like Star Trek is the sense of action/adventure. This iteration is just action, but completely lacking in adventure. It boldly goes where we've seen The Federation go before... booooring.
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I'm afraid that I can't get into TOS. I can't stand how flat and stereotypical the female characters are, and Kirk pisses me off. Spock is OK, but he never had much appeal to me.
Some of my favorite characters are:
Odo
Data
Seven of Nine
Dax, both Jadzia and Ezri
Nog
Some of my favorite characters are:
Odo
Data
Seven of Nine
Dax, both Jadzia and Ezri
Nog
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I prefer the movies primarily for their production values and their plots. My clear favorite is IV - The Voyage Home. My second favorite is First Contact. (I think First Contact was helped by my previously seeing the Borg episodes of the Next Generation series.)
Close 2nd choice is the original series. It's plot originality at the time was fantastic. Favorite character: Spock.
Close 3rd choice: Next Generations. Favorite character: Picard.
Not close 4th choice: Enterprise. Favorite character: Kirk.
5th choice Voyager. Favorite character: Janeway.
Did not like at all: Deep Space Nine: Worse character: Sisco - Avery Brooks did not understand this character at all. He was much much better as Hawk in the Spenser series.
Close 2nd choice is the original series. It's plot originality at the time was fantastic. Favorite character: Spock.
Close 3rd choice: Next Generations. Favorite character: Picard.
Not close 4th choice: Enterprise. Favorite character: Kirk.
5th choice Voyager. Favorite character: Janeway.
Did not like at all: Deep Space Nine: Worse character: Sisco - Avery Brooks did not understand this character at all. He was much much better as Hawk in the Spenser series.
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Kirk?
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Archer. I just don't understand why it's not T'Pol.
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Kelvin timeline.
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Next Generation with Deep Space Nine as a close second; TNG had the better captain (though Sisko is definitely a cool cat), but you can guess from my avatar that DSN had the better villains. Favorite characters overall tend to be Picard, Kirk, Spock, Data, Riker, Sisko, Bashir, Quark, Nog, Q, O'Brien, Odo, Garak and Dukat; honorable mentions to Worf, Quinan, Martok, and Gowron.
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The special effects were too hokey. The one episode I tried to watch, the alien spaceship they were checking out looked like a giant flower or seed pod or something.
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Given my decades old crush on Mariette Hartley
i have to vote for original TV series episode "All Our Yesterdays" .
i have to vote for original TV series episode "All Our Yesterdays" .
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Since this thread is about favorites, and I voted for movies, my favorite movies are:
1. (By far my first choice) Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home
2. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
3. Star Trek: First Contact
1. (By far my first choice) Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home
2. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
3. Star Trek: First Contact
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1. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
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2. Star Trek: Insurrection
3. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
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Yep. And it contains my most favorite quote [McCOY]:
The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe.
This is so true. I always had been inclined to claim my country is the worst, but then I discovered, all others aren't much better. O.k. I haven't checked all, but some major ones, so the hypothesis appears to be justified.
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British writer C N Parkinson wrote at length on Bureaucracy in the 1950's. His "The Law of Delay" is a classic and management curricula are beginning to recognize his contributions to the science. I highly recommend that book to anyone working for an outfit of significant size . From my position at the bottom of the organization it gave me great ability to make light of the all too often self defeating machinations of middle management.
I sent a copy to our CEO .
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345225651/?tag=pfamazon01-20
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for going so off topic, and, for not telling me about this book when I was employed by an outfit of significant size.
ps. I'm forwarding your book recommendation to my young protege, as she got caught up in such machinations, and is probably still there, wondering how to deal with it.
pps. OMG. Middle management.........
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Hmm. Yes, i digressed.....
Surely there was a Star Trek on this thought .....
Surely there was a Star Trek on this thought .....
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I don't have a favorite. They each had their own merits and I enjoyed them equally.
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Glad you did. I made many "trekkian" connections with Parkinson's thoughts.
As I see it:
Parkinson: "Here's what's wrong with the way we run things."
Roddenberry: "Here's how people in the future run things."
Roddenberry: "Here's how people in the future run things."
I may have to get that book, and read it myself.
ps. Here's the portion I deleted from my post yesterday:
ppps.
Fast rewind to OmCheeto in the Navy:
Captain; "We've got a problem."
Om; "I'm pretty good with problems. Would you like me to work on it?"
Captain; "Make it so, OmCheeto!"
Me; "Ok. [scratches head. solves problem.] Done!"
Fleet Admiral; "Give that Om kid a medal or something."
[true story]
Slow rewind to civilian life:
Om; "You could make this a lot more efficient if you..."
Middle management; "Shut up! I'm in charge here."
[true story]
Is the book anything like that?
Fast rewind to OmCheeto in the Navy:
Captain; "We've got a problem."
Om; "I'm pretty good with problems. Would you like me to work on it?"
Captain; "Make it so, OmCheeto!"
Me; "Ok. [scratches head. solves problem.] Done!"
Fleet Admiral; "Give that Om kid a medal or something."
[true story]
Slow rewind to civilian life:
Om; "You could make this a lot more efficient if you..."
Middle management; "Shut up! I'm in charge here."
[true story]
Is the book anything like that?
Analysis of my situation in the navy: Everyone is judged by their problem solving abilities, regardless of social/rank status. Very Trekkian.
Analysis of my situation in civilian life: Everyone is judged by their social/rank status.
pps. I also had about a thousand other thoughts. Most of which involved me thinking about how "adolescent" of a species we still are.