What is your favorite Star Trek series

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around participants' favorite Star Trek series, exploring personal preferences, character favorites, and opinions on various series within the franchise. The scope includes subjective views on storytelling, character development, and thematic elements across different Star Trek series.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a preference for "Next Generation" (TNG) due to nostalgia, while others favor "Original Series" (TOS) for its iconic characters like Spock and Kirk.
  • One participant dislikes the Star Trek series overall but enjoys the movies, indicating a divide in appreciation for the franchise.
  • Some participants note that while they prefer TOS characters, they find TNG's plotlines more engaging.
  • A participant critiques the political themes in TOS, suggesting they are too overt and detract from the storytelling.
  • Concerns are raised about the plausibility of Voyager's premise, particularly regarding its distance from Earth and the speed of travel.
  • Another participant reflects on the evolution of storytelling in Star Trek, suggesting that TNG had more freedom to explore dramatic narratives compared to TOS.
  • Some participants highlight the inconsistency of warp drive mechanics in the series, questioning the portrayal of travel speeds and distances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express differing opinions on their favorite series, with no clear consensus on which series is superior. Multiple competing views remain regarding character preferences and thematic elements.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge the limitations of their arguments, such as personal biases based on when they first encountered the series and the subjective nature of storytelling preferences.

What is your favorite Star Trek series

  • The Original Series (1966–69)

    Votes: 14 24.1%
  • The Next Generation (1987–94)

    Votes: 27 46.6%
  • Deep Space Nine (1993–99)

    Votes: 6 10.3%
  • Voyager (1995–2001)

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Enterprise (2001–05)

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • I prefer the movies

    Votes: 7 12.1%

  • Total voters
    58
  • #61
Grrrrrr For some reason the edit button is failing repeatedly so rather than continuing to beat my head against a brick wall I'll just amend it here.

The last sentence in the 3rd paragraph should have been clearer and more specific, reading "... so little change in TNG compared by before and after Gene's death,

Additionally while that could be interpreted as Gene having very little control my conclusion is that regardless of control his influence was long-lasting and pervasive and every account I've ever read speaks about Gene's vision that universally cheap energy is the key to such an enlightened and productive society, a quantum leap for humankind required to survive technology advances that threaten extinction.
 
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  • #62
enorbet said:
My assertion regarding Gene's vision reaching fruition on TNG has to do with his view of Political and Social norms of the future where cheap energy and advanced technology has essentially eliminated poverty, lack of opportunity especially in education, and thos xenophobia still exists in Gene's vision of the future racism and sexism among Homo Sapiens has all but disappeared and while some people are still "shoot first and ask questions later" there is a quantum leap in the baseline desire for collaboration and negotiation. To me those are the hallmarks of what Star Trek was all about, it's most important and valuable contribution instead of the far more common "Cowboys and Indians in space".

It is the most valuable part of it. Philosophies and humanity behind decisions governing their actions. That is why they got there in my opinion. And this new Star Trek is something different..I don't even want to analyse it.
Cheap energy with eliminated poverty would be a big step for sure.
 
  • #63
Although I voted for TNG, the original series does have the honour, so I believe, of there being the first ever TV scene which portrayed interacial romance.
I think Kirk was getting a bit frisky with Uhuru or something like that,
 
  • #64
rootone said:
Although I voted for TNG, the original series does have the honour, so I believe, of there being the first ever TV scene which portrayed interacial romance.
I think Kirk was getting a bit frisky with Uhuru or something like that,
I've read somewhere that they wanted to cut the scene, but Shatner tricked them by delaying the scene to the very last moment which left them with no time to cut it. Don't know whether it is true, but it fits to the spirit. And what's most important, it influenced us as children and we saw that equality isn't just a word. Even the constant mocking of Nimoy by Kelley can be seen as an insurance against negative discrimination.
 
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  • #67
i liked all of them except Voyager. i really liked Enterprise though. the theme song was particularly inspiring.
 
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  • #68
First one for me - I used to jump behind the settee when the music came on
 
  • #69
I see I voted on this a while ago. I used to care. The problem now is I can't watch Star Trek any more. In fact I can't stand to watch any science fiction any more. Has anyone else lost their interest in the genre because they have become such a science brain that they can't enjoy fantasy any more?
 
  • #70
Aufbauwerk 2045 said:
I see I voted on this a while ago. I used to care. The problem now is I can't watch Star Trek any more. In fact I can't stand to watch any science fiction any more. Has anyone else lost their interest in the genre because they have become such a science brain that they can't enjoy fantasy any more?
I have more objections against news magazines and pop science shows. If I watch a sci-fi show then I will expect to be entertained, not taught. I'm amused by the Heisenberg compensators in the transporter set-up, because the HUP could indeed become a problem. I do not expect a scientific explanation for something which cannot be explained. That's the point where I developed animosities towards news and pop science shows: they do pretend as if it were explanations what they say, and they rarely can deliver, neither of them.

I remember many years ago when we were out and decided to watch a movie. We couldn't really agree on a film and ended up in Spielberg's Hook. One girl complained the entire movie how poor and predictable the story was. That's the point: you will not expect a high quality story and movie if you're going to watch a Peter Pan adaption. I sometimes have problems with shows where their material losses are regularly much heavier than could be restored within the time given, e.g. Andromeda or Voyager. That's more a matter of basic algebra than a matter of background or genre. It simply doesn't match up if you nearly destroy the entire ship week by week, and will go on fully equipped in the next episode. But I'm not surprised that the universe appears pretty crowded whereas in reality I think it is not.

However, if I hear for the hundredth time about pairs of particles to explain Hawking radiation in a documentation, and read here almost weekly, that this is nonsense, then I get angry. And if politicians of any kind try to explain a situation and a necessary consequence, while they obviously leave out 90% of the facts, then it makes me feel sick, because the reason to watch them is information. The reason to watch sci-fi is entertainment.
 
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  • #71
fresh_42 said:
The reason to watch sci-fi is entertainment.

"Hook" was delightful. I greatly enjoy attention to detail in sets and special effects. Dustin Hoffman's performance was incredibly good , so was Robin Williams. "Why are you climbing up the rain gutter? Because I'm out of Pixie dust." - best delivered line in decades.
Julia Roberts' incredibly long legs were perfect for Tinkerbell. Forbidden Planet's "Monsters of the Id" might turn out prescient if Google keeps this up...

Mind-reading headset let's you Google just with your thoughts
 
  • #72
The original series was like a breath of fresh air in the vast wasteland of television. Of course my real favorite was My Mother the Car. o_O
 
  • #73
Interesting this thread popped up again.
I'd forgot i posted on it almost exactly a year ago.
i just googled and to my surprise find I've picked (from the scores offered) the exact same image as last July..

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"Don't you need somebody to love?"
 

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