What length of wire is needed for a 9V heating element to reach 400 C?

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The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate length and specifications of wire needed for a heating element powered by 9V to reach high temperatures, specifically 400°C and 1000°C. Participants explore various factors influencing the design of resistive heaters, including wire material, diameter, and efficiency considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on calculating the length of nichrome or kanthal A1 wire needed to achieve 400°C with a 9V power supply.
  • Another participant notes that the required wire specifications depend on the heating application, mentioning that standard tables exist for wire temperature based on current and resistance.
  • Several participants express interest in achieving 1000°C, asking for details on wire length, diameter, and efficiency, but do not clarify how these parameters relate to the initial 400°C inquiry.
  • A participant questions the feasibility of reaching 1000°C with a 9V battery, suggesting that there are many combinations of wire sizes and lengths that could theoretically achieve this temperature.
  • One participant emphasizes the need for clarity in the project goals, asking whether the heating element or the object being processed needs to reach 1000°C.
  • Suggestions are made to consider the wattage requirements and thermal insulation effectiveness when designing the heating element.
  • Alternative heating methods, such as carbon arcs and induction heating, are mentioned as potentially more effective for achieving high temperatures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the feasibility of achieving the desired temperatures with a 9V power supply, and there is no consensus on the specific wire requirements or the best approach to take for the heating element design. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal parameters for the project.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific calculations or assumptions regarding wire resistance, power requirements, or thermal dynamics, leaving these aspects open for further exploration.

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I need to construct a heating element powered by 9V that needs to reach 400 C. How do I figure out what length of wire I will need. I will most likely be using nichrome or kanthal A1
 
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Depends what you need to heat.
There are standard tables which tell you the temperature a wire of given cross section (and therefore resistance) will reach for a certain current in still air, but if you used the same wire to try to heat water to 400C you are going to need more power.
 
i want to make a resistive heater,in which temperature reaches to 1000C.i want to know how long wire should i take,what should be its diameter and how many number of turns it should have to give max. efficiency??
 
i am again putting the same question.kindly answer as early as possible.
i want to make a resistive heater,in which temperature reaches to 1000C.i want to know how long wire should i take,what should be its diameter and how many number of turns it should have to give max. efficiency??
 
It is unlikely that a 9 volt battery has enough energy to do what you want.

There are infinite combinations of wire sizes and wire lengths that will reach 1000C.

You will get better responses if you are consistent.
Are you MB876 or Hassan Javed?
Is it 400C or 1000C

You will probably get better responses if you describe what you are trying to do, rather than "temperature reaches to 1000C".
 
im hassan javed.
i want to make a resistive furnace in which temperature of 1000C can obtain.
so i need info about different parameters involve like length and diameter of wire etc.
 
Do you require a heating element at 1000C or do you require the object you are processing to be at 1000C?

Determine size of furnace.
Determine how effective thermal insulation is.
Calculate desired watts.
Select any wire size and calculate watts maximum. Use larger wire if you require higher watts.

For a sanity check determine what wattage a electric home oven uses. A 1000C furnace will probably use at least 4 times the wattage of a electric home oven.(Just guessing, don't have any firm figures)

Years ago there were some articles on ovens to melt metals using a carbon arc. A carbon arc might be a better approach for high temperatures than a resistive furnance.

Could you use an induction heater?
 
No,i Could not use an induction heater yet.
its just a project,upon which i am working.thats why i need such info.
 
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