What makes a door move, the torque or the force or both?

  • Thread starter Thread starter alkaspeltzar
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Force Torque
AI Thread Summary
A door's movement is influenced by both torque and force, as both are necessary for it to swing. When a force is applied at the door handle, it generates torque about the hinge, while also creating a net force that moves the door's center of mass. The hinge provides a reaction force that balances the applied force, allowing for both rotational and translational motion. In many discussions, torque is often emphasized because it is sufficient to analyze the door's angular motion, but understanding the net force is crucial for a complete picture. Ultimately, both torque and force are integral to the mechanics of how a door operates.
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #52
jbriggs444 said:
If there is a net force, the torque depends on the choice of reference axis. That choice is free.
I may have just confused myself. If you have a reaction wheel system, attached to a free object, that cannot apply any net force - or you would have a reaction less drive à la Eric Laithwaite. Ah - but attaching a hinge provides another reaction torque in addition to that, due to the MI of the door.
 
  • #53
sophiecentaur said:
I may have just confused myself. If you have a reaction wheel system, attached to a free object, that cannot apply any net force - or you would have a reaction less drive à la Eric Laithwaite. Ah - but attaching a hinge provides another reaction torque in addition to that, due to the MI of the door.
The scenario I have in mind is a door with the hinge pins pulled out, just barely stuck in the jamb (*). You pull on the knob. The door comes out of the doorway, rotating as it does so. But if your choice of reference axis is at the knob then there was no torque and no change in angular momentum. Nonetheless, the door is unambiguously changing its orientation -- it is rotating without a torque having been applied.

The counter-balancing angular momentum is, of course, accounted for by the linear motion of the door's center of mass.

(*) Assume that you've also trimmed away the wood in the door frame so that the hinge-ward 1/3 of the door width is free to push into the jamb without impediment.
 
  • Like
Likes sophiecentaur
Back
Top