What Mistakes Are Made in Solving Damped Oscillator LCR Circuit Problems?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving problems related to a damped oscillator in an LCR circuit, particularly focusing on the decay of oscillations and the relationship between the circuit's parameters and the square wave voltage input.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the decay time and oscillation frequency based on the square wave input, questioning the validity of their approach when encountering a cosine term that complicates their calculations. They also express confusion regarding the implications of "17 ringing cycles per half-cycle" on resistance values.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in clarifying the original poster's calculations and assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the focus on the exponential decay rather than the cosine term, and there is an acknowledgment of the correctness of the angular frequency calculation. However, there is no explicit consensus on the overall correctness of the original poster's approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of precision in determining resistance from angular frequency and highlight the need for clarity regarding the assumptions made in the calculations.

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For part (a) i did the following;
the time for it to decay to 40% is half the period of the square wave = 0.00002 seconds
So, 0.4qm = qm ## e^(\frac{-0.00002R}{2L})cos(25000*2*\pi*0.00002) ##
But the cosine term yields -1 which then makes the equation unsolvable, what am i doing wrong?

For part (b) I am a bit confused about the "17 ringing cylcles per half-cycle" but i tried ;

the time for one half oscillation of the square wave voltage is 0.5/(25E3) = 0.00002 seconds
during this time the LCR circuit rings 17 times so the period of oscillation of the LCR circuit is 0.00002/17 = 0.000001176
this corresponds to an angular freq of w = 5340707.511 rad.s^-1
Is this correct so far? and if so, does this mean there will be a different restance in part (b) than in part (a)?
 
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Don't involve the cosine. For the decay all we are concerned with is the exponential envelope.
 
Thank you, I should have realized that.
Do you know if what i did for part (b) is correct?
 
Your ##\mathrm{\omega}## looks right. You cannot estimate R from ##\textrm{ω}## because you don't know ##\mathbf{ω}## to the great precision necessary. The exponential decay is what allows you to determine R.
 

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