What should be the electric field intensity inside a sphere

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The discussion focuses on the electric field intensity and charge density inside a charged solid metallic sphere when the force between point charges is proportional to \(\frac{1}{r^3}\). It is established that, similar to the \(\frac{1}{r^2}\) case, the electric field inside the sphere remains zero. However, the charge density distribution is not straightforward and requires integration to determine. The mathematical approach involves using symmetry and integrating the electric field components to derive an equation for the charge density, \(\rho(r)\).

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If the force acting between two point charges were proportional to \frac{1}{r^ 3}, instead of \frac{1}{r^ 2}, what would be the electric field intensity and charge density inside a charged solid metallic sphere?
 
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Good question. Makes one think. What do you think ?

PS if this is homework, then there is a special forum to post in.
 
Hmm. The charge distribution will settle into a minimum energy configuration. For ##\frac{1}{r^2}##, all of the charge would go to the surface of the sphere, and the field inside would be zero. For ##\frac{1}{r^3}##, the field inside would still have to be zero (otherwise, charges would continue to redistribute) but it isn't so obvious what the charge density is.
We need to find a distribution such that the field is 0. By symmetry, the distribution must be only a function of radius.
Pick an arbitrary point in the sphere. Without loss of generality, we assume the point to be on the z-axis, going through the center of the sphere. Let the position be ##(0,0,z')##. The field at that point is
##0 = F = \int\limits_0^\pi \int\limits_0^R 2\pi f(r,\theta) r^2 \sin \theta dr d\theta##
where ##f(r,\theta)## is the piece of field at the point due to the charge density at ##(r,\theta)##. We can ignore the ##\phi## coordinate due to symmetry.
The amplitude of the piece of field f is
##|f(r,\theta)| = \rho(x,y,z) \frac{1}{[(x-x')^2 + (y-y')^2 + (z-z')^2]^{3/2}}##
where (x,y,z) are the position of the differential charge and (x',y',z') = (0,0,z') is the arbitrary point.
##z = r \cos \theta##
##x^2 + y^2 = (r \sin \theta)^2##
so
##|f(r,\theta)| = \rho(x,y,z) \frac{1}{[(r \sin \theta)^2 + (r \cos \theta -z')^2]^{3/2}}##
The angle ##\alpha## of the field f to the z axis is given by
##\tan \alpha = \frac{r \sin \theta}{r \cos \theta - z'}##
so the z component of the field f is
##f_z = \cos \alpha |f(r,\theta)|##
to be continued.
 
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##\cos \alpha = \sqrt{\frac{(r \cos \theta - z')^2}{(r \sin \theta)^2 + (r \cos \theta - z')^2}}##
##f_z(r,\theta) = \rho(r) \frac{r \cos \theta - z'}{[(r \sin \theta)^2 + (r \cos \theta - z')^2]^2}##
Now go back to the first equation, setting ##F_z=0##
##0 = F_z = \int\limits_0^\pi \int\limits_0^R 2\pi f_z(r,\theta) r^2 \sin \theta dr d\theta##
Now, it should be possible to integrate ##f_z## over ##\theta##. This gives an integral equation for ##\rho(r)##
I guess you can then take the derivative to get an equation for ##\rho(r)##.
This approach seems messy, and I wonder if there's a better way.
 
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##\cos \alpha = \sqrt{\frac{(r \cos \theta - z')^2}{(r \sin \theta)^2 + (r \cos \theta - z')^2}}##
##f_z(r,\theta) = \rho(r) \frac{r \cos \theta - z'}{[(r \sin \theta)^2 + (r \cos \theta - z')^2]^2}##
Now go back to the first equation, setting ##F_z=0##
##0 = F_z = \int\limits_0^\pi \int\limits_0^R 2\pi f_z(r,\theta) r^2 \sin \theta dr d\theta##
Now, it should be possible to integrate ##f_z## over ##\theta##. This gives an integral equation for ##\rho(r)##
I guess you can then take the derivative to get an equation for ##\rho(r)##.
This approach seems messy, and I wonder if there's a better way.
Khashishi said:
##\cos \alpha = \sqrt{\frac{(r \cos \theta - z')^2}{(r \sin \theta)^2 + (r \cos \theta - z')^2}}##
##f_z(r,\theta) = \rho(r) \frac{r \cos \theta - z'}{[(r \sin \theta)^2 + (r \cos \theta - z')^2]^2}##
Now go back to the first equation, setting ##F_z=0##
##0 = F_z = \int\limits_0^\pi \int\limits_0^R 2\pi f_z(r,\theta) r^2 \sin \theta dr d\theta##
Now, it should be possible to integrate ##f_z## over ##\theta##. This gives an integral equation for ##\rho(r)##
I guess you can then take the derivative to get an equation for ##\rho(r)##.
This approach seems messy, and I wonder if there's a better way.
I appreciate your method, thanks. The point I wanted to clarify is, by intution, to understand whether the charge density inside the sphere would drop to zero. Clearly, it wouldn't.
You have proceeded to a clear mathematical treatment, which is, very excellent of you.
 

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