What should I read to get ahead?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for reading materials and study approaches for a 16-year-old student preparing for A-level physics. The focus is on advancing knowledge in physics while integrating mathematical concepts, particularly calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the Tsokos book "Physics for the IB Diploma" for its comprehensive content and calculus integration, noting the limitations of light reading in connecting theory and results.
  • Another participant recommends starting with calculus alongside physics, specifically mentioning the Keisler book as a well-written resource that uses a nonstandard approach with infinitesimals, suitable for physics.
  • A participant expresses concern about the lack of emphasis on calculus in England, questioning whether it is reserved for university or taught differently.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of being comfortable with algebra and trigonometry before tackling calculus, citing common struggles among students.
  • Another participant agrees that understanding mathematics is crucial for studying physics, referring to it as essential "street cred" for scientists.
  • There is a shared sentiment that light reading, while enjoyable, does not provide a deep understanding of physics concepts.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of integrating mathematics with physics study, particularly calculus. However, there are differing views on the best approach to learning and the role of light reading in understanding physics.

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Some participants note that calculus is typically covered in A-level mathematics in England, suggesting a potential difference in educational approaches compared to other regions. There is also an acknowledgment of varying levels of preparedness in algebra and trigonometry among students.

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Greetings!

I'm an English Secondary School (Basically the same as High School) student of 16 years. I'm currently in the middle of my summer holiday after completing my GCSEs ('General Certificate of Secondary Education'). Next year I move on to my A-levels (physics included of course).

My literal understanding of physics covers most widely notable areas (classical, relativity, quantum theory, string theory) to an extent, but my mathematical knowledge is very limited.

I am currently reading/have read various light books on physics such as;
Brief History of Time - Hawking
The Meaning of it All - Feynman
Black Holes and Baby Universes and Other Essays - Hawking
The Universe in a Nutshell - Hawking

I am wondering where I should go from here; I want to advance my knowledge of physics independent of the pace of my education, and start to put maths behind the theories. The Feynman Lectures on Physics seemed a good option to start with , but is there something I should read first? Or is the content far too advanced for my level? Something else?

I'm interested to see your opinions, recommendations for educational materials, and perhaps advice if you've "been there; done that".
Thanks in advance.
 
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I would look at the Tsokos book Physics for the IB Diploma. Its high-school physics but with more content and uses Calculus to describe things. That means of course that you need to understand Calculus and how its used.

The light reading is good but even Physics students will tell you it leaves much to be desired. You don't fully learn how to connect the dots between results and the actual theory and are left hanging. I used to have this problem when I read these kinds of books as an undergrad Physics major.
 
If you want to learn real physics, then you should probably start studying with the math. Sure, there are algebra based physics books that you can read right now. But why not actually learn calculus now? I recommend the Keisler book for you, it's free: https://www.math.wisc.edu/~keisler/calc.html
It's a very well written book and makes calculus really easy (it's not dumbed down at all though). This is because it follows a highly nonstandard approach to calculus with infinitesimals. This is how calculus was first invented and how people have done it for centuries. It is also an approach that is very suitable for physics (way more suitable than the abstract approach that mathematicians follow now). A word of warning though, if you ever read another calculus book or take another calculus class, then you might find that things are done very different than this book. But I think that is a good thing to see several different approaches.
 
Thank you very much for your advice jedishrfu and micromass, I'll start on the Keisler book today.

Calculus doesn't tend to get mentioned much in England, is that because it's reserved for university or because we have a different way of covering the material? I have no idea. I'm sure it'll be very useful regardless.

Concerning the light reading, yes I suppose it's not really 'real' physics. It's somewhat like replacing chemistry with explosions, entertaining and appealing to a wide audience, but not very helpful.
 
Wakarimasen said:
Calculus doesn't tend to get mentioned much in England, is that because it's reserved for university or because we have a different way of covering the material?

Calculus is covered in A-level maths. When I was in school, calculus also was covered in the final year of high school, but I learned the basics of it on my own a couple of years before this.

Wakarimasen said:
Concerning the light reading, yes I suppose it's not really 'real' physics. It's somewhat like replacing chemistry with explosions, entertaining and appealing to a wide audience, but not very helpful.

I enjoy this type of "light reading"; I did in high school, and I still do.
 
Wakarimasen, a word of caution: before tackling calculus, be *very* comfortable with your algebra and trig. So many students here report that they "understand the concepts" but can't get good grades. Often it's because they can't solve the problems due to deficiencies in their algebra and trig.
 
micromass said:
If you want to learn real physics, then you should probably start studying with the math.

Yeah, I have to agree with Mm here, at the end of the day, it does come down to the math. Math is kind of the "street cred" of science. Take it for what you will, I didn't give it much importance when I was younger, but the inescapable conclusion is that if you want to be a scientist, you better know your maths.
 

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