What type of solids have regular geometric pattern?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the arrangement of particles in solids, specifically focusing on whether covalent molecules, particularly non-polar ones, exhibit a regular geometric pattern when solidified. The scope includes conceptual understanding of solid-state structures and the characteristics that define crystalline versus amorphous solids.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that covalent molecules, when solid, are arranged randomly, particularly non-polar molecules like CO2.
  • Another participant asserts that solid covalent molecules typically form crystals with a regular pattern upon solidification.
  • A later reply proposes that all solids may be crystalline at thermal equilibrium, although this lacks a mathematical proof and no exceptions are known.
  • There is a mention of "amorphous" solids, which do not have a regular pattern and are characterized by a lack of a sharp melting point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether non-polar covalent solids can exhibit a regular geometric pattern, with some asserting they do and others questioning this assertion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions under which solids have a regular geometric pattern.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the need for clarity on definitions of crystalline versus amorphous solids and the conditions under which different types of solids form. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of non-polar molecules in solid form.

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So there was this question:

Which sample demonstrates particles arranged in a regular geometric pattern?

A. CO2(g)
B. CO2(s)
C. CO2(l)
D. CO2(aq)
E. None of the above

I chose E because I thought that covalent molecules, when solid, would be arranged in a random pattern, especially since this is a non-polar molecule. But apparently they will be arranged in a regular geometric pattern because the answer is B. So could someone confirm the answer and also tell me when solids have regular geometric pattern? Are there any rules?
 
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"Amorphous" (without structure) solids have no regular pattern and can be recognized by lack of a sharp melting point.
 
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Ok, so is solid covalent molecules arranged in a regular geometric pattern?
 
TT0 said:
Ok, so is solid covalent molecules arranged in a regular geometric pattern?

In most cases yes, covalent molecules on solidification will produce a crystal, with a regular pattern of molecules.
 
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Interesting, does this happen even with non-polar molecules?
 
TT0 said:
Interesting, does this happen even with non-polar molecules?
Probably all solids are crystalline at thermal equilibrium.
There does not seem to be a mathematical proof, but there are no known exceptions.
 
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Ok thanks
 

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